Remington Sportsman 58... need help

View · by **bensdad** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:08 am

Any experts in the house? I have a 58 that needs a new gas ring (piston ring). Can't find one (checked the usual suspects like Brownells, Numrich, etc.). Will any other piston ring do the trick?

View · by **wasfuzz** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:05 am

check with Ahlmans in Morristown, ive found the often times have some of the oddest things.

View · by **Hammered Squirrel** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:19 am

J&S guns in Lakeville had a piston ring for my 20 gauge 1100, when no one else did. Though I wouldn't buy anything else from them.

View · by **bensdad** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:33 am

wasfuzz wrote:check with Ahlmans in Morristown, ive found the often times have some of the oddest things.

First place I checked. Thanks though.

View · by **bensdad** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:58 am

Hammered Squirrel wrote:J&S guns in Lakeville had a piston ring for my 20 gauge 1100, when no one else did. Though I wouldn't buy anything else from them.

I'd rather use it as a club than do business with them. If I wanna be treated like an intruder, I'll go to the in-laws. :lol:

should not have put "etc." to define where I've checked. Numrich (gunpartscorp.com), Brownells, Ahlmans, midway, Remington, Jackfirst. Pretty sure my only hope is for someone to say, "Yeah, the ring from a <insert other obscure autoloader here> will work for that."

Pretty sure she's a boat-anchor now.

View · by **Hammered Squirrel** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:00 am

bensdad wrote:
Hammered Squirrel wrote:J&S guns in Lakeville had a piston ring for my 20 gauge 1100, when no one else did. Though I wouldn't buy anything else from them.

I'd rather use it as a club than do business with them. If I wanna be treated like an intruder, I'll go to the in-laws.

should not have put "etc." to define where I've checked. Numrich (gunpartscorp.com), Brownells, Ahlmans, midway, Remington, Jackfirst. Pretty sure my only hope is for someone to say, "Yeah, the ring from a <insert other obscure autoloader here> will work for that."

Haha yea I wouldn't do business with them again personally, but they had the part and I needed it in high school for the state trap shoot.

View · by **Squib Joe** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:10 am

Is it a leather or rubber ring?

Rubber can normally be replaced with a viton o-ring. Precision Associates on Washington has every o-ring made if you can't find it elsewhere

View · by **cobb** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:16 pm

Worth a try, I have gotten older parts from them years ago.

http://www.jackfirstgun.com/

View · by **BU1** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:42 pm

Go to the Remington website.

Click support

Click repair services

Click specialty parts dealers

Someone on that list should be able to help.

View · by **bensdad** on Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:27 pm

Tried Remington specialty, tried jackfirst. game over. Thanks guys. It's a boat anchor.

View · by **BU1** on Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:32 pm

What condition is the rest of it in? What gauge? Maybe interested if it's for sale.

View · by **onebohemian** on Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:59 pm

Used ones, although I don't know if either is going to fit your gun as I'm not familiar with what the actual part looks like. These two are different from one another, but maybe one would be worth a try:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-model-58-12ga-piston-ring-/170777644438#ht_23wt_917

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-model-58-878-Westerfield-600AE-12ga-O-ring-metal-ring-/181105670612?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2abd39d4#ht_23wt_917

View · by **45Badger** on Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:00 pm

Have you tried one from an 1100?

View · by **onebohemian** on Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:39 pm

45Badger wrote:Have you tried one from an 1100?

Take this for what it's worth -- which is only about 60 minutes of internet research trying to figure out the part numbers for the 58 piston ring as well as the larger assembly -- but it looked to me like the 1100 may have a different piston system than these older 58s. I could be wrong, but I saw a few things on the net that seemed to suggest Remington changed this system when it stopped making the 58s, and that the newer system may not be interchangable. One could pick up the ring from an 1100 just to try it, and if it worked, you'd end up being a hero to others who've posted over the years looking for the 58's piston ring too.

I really hate to see an old gun become a boat anchor.

View · by **bensdad** on Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:42 pm

It's a different ring than the 1100 (or any other for that matter). I hate to see it become a boat anchor too, but the whole thing could be replaced with a functioning older gun for what it would cost to have the part made. It's a 20ga. The weak link is the piston ring. NOT something I'd buy used from some annonymous e-bay seller. Plus it's another $50 for the extractor assembly. That has to be replaced too (the other likely culprit to a short-stroking old gas-gun). Thanks for the help guys, but without a little serendipity, it just wasn't meant to be.