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Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby Bong on Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:25 am

Hey guys. Just upgraded a bunch of parts on my AR and got a yhm phantom break. But didn't come with any shims to time it right. Does any one know who in town may possibly carry these in stock? Looking for around the cities. Thanks.
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Re: Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby timwarner on Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:39 am

it should have come with an alum crush washer...
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Re: Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby clemmac on Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:40 am

Bong wrote:Hey guys. Just upgraded a bunch of parts on my AR and got a yhm phantom break. But didn't come with any shims to time it right. Does any one know who in town may possibly carry these in stock? Looking for around the cities. Thanks.


Forget the shims, get a "crush washer", that'll save time and frustration. The crush washer allows the installer to simply screw the muzzle brake on to the desired position and quit.
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Re: Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby Hmac on Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:10 am

Agree. Crush washer (they're steel). I quite wasting my time with shims for muzzle devices years ago.

http://www.amazon.com/10PCS-Steel-crush ... B0071Q4KHA
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Re: Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby UnaStamus on Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:36 pm

Shims are really only necessary for muzzle devices that will be used to mount suppressors, or MDs that by design have to be installed with shims.
Otherwise, shims are a PITA and a crush washer makes your life easier. I did a YouTube video of how to time a muzzle device using shims, and you can see how much wasted effort it is.
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Re: Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby Bong on Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:14 am

Will the crush washer give that much? Hand tight the bottom of the brake is about the 11 o'clock position. It did come with one crush washer.
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Re: Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby clemmac on Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:42 am

Bong wrote:Will the crush washer give that much? Hand tight the bottom of the brake is about the 11 o'clock position. It did come with one crush washer.


Yup, there's lots of "give", surely enough to give a full turn and possibly two turns after the device contacts the crush washer.
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Re: Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby Hmac on Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:09 am

Prescribed way to use a crush washer according to Allan at BattleComp is tighten the muzzle device 90 degrees at a time, back off a little each time until your last turn to get it timed is 90 degrees. Crushing the washer with 90 degrees of rotation will give you the proper amount of torque on the device. Make sure you use a good wrench that won't damage the device, like a distributer or similarly narrow wrench. I use a Hammerhead tool with the upper secured in a Geissele Reaction Rod. Next best method is a barrel block. You can secure the barrel well just by cutting a couple of V-notches in a piece of 2x4 and wrapping the barrel with some wet leather.

The crush washer is oriented so that the narrow end of it is toward the stock.
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Re: Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby Bong on Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:56 am

Ok I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the info guys.
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Re: Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby Synergy on Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:17 pm

Speaking of crush washers once you "crush" it is that it or can it be "crushed" again? The reason I ask is I have one and changed the flash hider but there was no way I was going to get that extra half turn to line it up.
I ended up sanding it down so my new hider would line up.
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Re: Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby Bong on Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:35 am

Worked perfectly. Thanks again guys.
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Re: Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby Dave Timm on Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:55 am

Synergy wrote:Speaking of crush washers once you "crush" it is that it or can it be "crushed" again? The reason I ask is I have one and changed the flash hider but there was no way I was going to get that extra half turn to line it up.
I ended up sanding it down so my new hider would line up.


Crush washers are a disposable part, once they are crushed discard and use a new one. When we remove muzzle devices we replace the crush washer with a new one.
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Re: Ar flash hider/muzzle brake shims.

Postby Hmac on Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:58 am

Synergy wrote:Speaking of crush washers once you "crush" it is that it or can it be "crushed" again? The reason I ask is I have one and changed the flash hider but there was no way I was going to get that extra half turn to line it up.
I ended up sanding it down so my new hider would line up.


Don't do that.
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