Savage model 111 in a 338 lapua

View · by **greenfarmer** on Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:41 pm

Found a savage 111 chambered in 338 lapua. Has a bipod on and a millett TRS-1 scope with illuminated reticle. Can't remember specs right off hand on scope.

What do you guys think is a fair price on this set up? Owner says about 20 rounds total run thru it. And I can believe it. Gun seems in perfect shape. But not sure how the barrel was broke in..

What's a fair price, and what would be top dollar you would pay for this? Not sure if he's in the ballpark on his price or not.

Thanks

View · by **mmcnx2** on Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:14 pm

New the gun MSRP is about $1200 and the scope sells on Midaway for $300ish.

One consideration would be the Millet scope, they are not real high end and not sure if it would be up to the 338 recoil.

View · by **PHATSPEED7x** on Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:48 pm

A box of 20 rounds will set you back nearly $100 at my local retailer. That's why I never invested in one. Would rather shoot .308 Winchester.

I wouldn't pay more than $1000 for the whole set up...

View · by **greenfarmer** on Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:21 pm

PHATSPEED7x wrote:A box of 20 rounds will set you back nearly $100 at my local retailer. That's why I never invested in one. Would rather shoot .308 Winchester.

I wouldn't pay more than $1000 for the whole set up...

Thanks.

That's basically what I was thinking. I found out about the gun thru a friend of mine. He told me and said the guy was asking 1250 for it. I told him I thought that was high. And I looked on Armslist. (which everyone is high on there) and found them all over the place. So I figured i'd ask on here. Would get straight, no BS answers here. Rather than look at the inflated prices online.

I offered him 850 cash. Said no dice. He said he can't take anything less than 1250. And I won't pay that much for a "used" gun. If it was a 110 Savage, i'd gladly pay 1250. But not a 111. But I had to ask on here to make sure I was inline with what I was thinking and not that I was to far off.

View · by **igofast** on Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:33 pm

As with everything, prices oscillated quite a bit over the last year. However, Bud's is pretty consistent for having among the best prices:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/76654 : 1017(plus transfer fees)

Someone else got the TRS-1 @ Midway : $260-325 + ship

So, new you're at ~1350

Personally, I would have him take the scope off(I like Milletts on a .223, but the rifle deserves some higher end glass) and offer $900(assuming he hasn't damaged anything), gun won't be broken in until 100 rounds and he's probably upset at the accuracy at 100 yards(opinions vary, but .338 Lapua seems to be one of those calibers that needs some range to calm down, although I've managed under a 1/2" @ 100). It's a great gun and fun as hell to shoot as long as you don't leave a cleaning rod down the barrel(do a search). It will make you flinch if you don't have good form. See if he'll include any spent brass, reloading can get you down to $1-1.50/round, otherwise:

View · by **PHATSPEED7x** on Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:56 pm

I personally would get a single shot .50BMG over a .338 Lapua. At least you can get .50BMG at a semi decent price. And Walmart carries it...

View · by **RAGGED** on Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:51 am

PHATSPEED7x wrote:I personally would get a single shot .50BMG over a .338 Lapua. At least you can get .50BMG at a semi decent price. And Walmart carries it...

Where would you shoot it? Most of the local clubs don't allow them, also all the reloading stuff is drastically bigger and requires expensive tools, you can reload 338lm on just about any press you may already own, consumables are about a $1 a round, brass cost would add another 20-40 cents depending on life, worst case you get 5 or less firings and you are still only $1.50 per round, have you ever checked the price of 50 cal target bullets? They are much much more than 65 cents each, and you still have to stuff it with a ton of powder and a huge primer. 50 cals are cool, but cheaper they are not, unless you are strictly shooting purchased rounds and want nothing more that basic mil-surp machine gun rounds.

View · by **andrewP** on Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:04 am

RAGGED wrote:and you still have to stuff it with a ton of powder and a huge primer.

No kidding; .50 BMG is like what, 200+ grains of powder per shot? That's only 30-35 rounds/pound. When powder is a significant portion of your reloading cost, well, it changes the math a bit, I suppose. Of course, on the other hand, .50 BMG powders are just about the only kind that show in stock at most of the major online sellers, so there's that.

View · by **RAGGED** on Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:31 am

andrewP wrote:
No kidding; .50 BMG is like what, 200+ grains of powder per shot? That's only 30-35 rounds/pound. When powder is a significant portion of your reloading cost, well, it changes the math a bit, I suppose. Of course, on the other hand, .50 BMG powders are just about the only kind that show in stock at most of the major online sellers, so there's that.

I'm sure guys really into it have a line on cheaper stuff, but from everything I've seen good 50 cal target bullets start around $2 each and go up from there, good quality 338 target bullets start at under 80 cents each, 50 primers will run you 40 cents each, powder is likely 50-80cents per round, so all said and done you are looking at at least $3 per round in consumables assuming you are buying low qty precision type stuff, IE target bullets and non-milsurp powders and primers, and we still haven't addressed the cost of brass, no idea how many firings you get out of them, maybe they go forever, but I think Lapua plans to make 50 BMG cases soon and my guess is they will be $7-10 EACH, but who knows.

View · by **Erud** on Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:23 am

I've had 3 different .50's and 2 .338's over the years and sold them all. They are both just too darned expensive to shoot, and too impractical for almost any type of shooting that most people actually do. I shoot quite a bit at 1000 yards, but never really any further than that. I've got other rifles/chamberings that I'd much rather shoot at that distance that are a lot easier on the wallet and shoulder that perform very well.

Neither one of them is cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but one thing the .50 does have going for it is surplus components. Military brass, bullets and powder can still be had for somewhat reasonable prices if you do not need match-grade ammo. The cost of primers, on the other hand, will make you cry.

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View · by **RAGGED** on Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:33 pm

Erud wrote:I've got other rifles/chamberings that I'd much rather shoot at that distance that are a lot easier on the wallet and shoulder that perform very well.

I would tend to agree, its more of a novelty around here, I still don't think I'll ever sell my TRG, its just too cool, the engineering is amazing and a treat compared to your run of the mill bolt action..... but I don't think I've put a round down it in 2-3 years, maybe this spring.

View · by **OldmanFCSA** on Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:21 pm

As most everyone knows, I love to shoot my single-shot Target Rifles chambered in 50BMG.

I have well over 1000 rounds of loaded surplus available, some cost $0.79 per round, the most expensive were $1.93 per round.
I reload the 50BMG, along with about 40+ other cartridges, and buy bulk powders when available.
I've bought Virgin H5010 for $39.00/ 8 pounds, H50BMG for $143.00/8 pounds, Reloder50 for $148.00 per 8 pounds, and V.V. 20N29 for $168/00 per 8 pounds. I've bought in up to 300 pound quantities when doing a group buy for other shooters. (my 20N29 only cost me $125/jug when purchased from a retired shooter). I sure wish I had purchased more components in past years, like my AP700's for $0.23 each, or M33 Ball for $0.18 each.
Now Amax can be had for $1.48 each if bought in quantity. Same for 808 grain brass solids $1.60 each. Both Amax and Solids NOW list on web pages for $2.25 to $3.00 each with shipping included. I bought 10K of 50BMG primers years ago for $95/500, now days they cost a bit more.

This year I am experimenting with 808 grain brass solids coated with Titanium Disulfide, which is more slippery than Moly without the bad side effects of Moly. I intend to push these at around 2950 FPS utilizing a very healthy charge of 20N29, CCI#35 primer, and special match-prepped brass fitted to a 0.554" diameter necked chamber in my 35" Fedderson 5R barrel.

Yes it was expensive getting setup in this sport, but I planned for it in advance.
And it is much cheaper than the offroad racing team that I sponsored. KTM200XC/W, KTM250XC/We, KTM530EXC, and spares, including traveling the National Enduro Circuit.