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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:03 am

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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:06 am

huh, still upside down. Might have to work on new pics tonight but until then, enjoy these.

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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:07 am

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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:08 am

Now that one ended up right side up for some reason?

Must be a left handed camera ;)
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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby FJ540 on Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:37 pm

Why'd you blur out the scope brand? Is it NighForse or some other knock off? :lol:
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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:40 pm

FJ540 wrote:Why'd you blur out the scope brand? Is it NighForse or some other knock off? :lol:

Because my photography skills suck. ;)

it is a Vortex strike Eagle
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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby FJ540 on Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:31 pm

Here I thought you slapped a Vortex image over the turret cap of a Schmitt & Bender and just didn't want to show off how baller you really roll. :P

I just put a pair of Steiner p4xi's on my .458S' last week. Had a defective one sent via Amazon Warehouse deals, returned it, found out GovX had them and ordered one, a week later they cancelled my order because Steiner is out of stock... So back to Amazon and the next Warehouse deals p4xi and ordered a new one just in case... Well, the WD one was only missing the throw lever, and otherwise perfect. I decided to keep 'em both. :mrgreen:
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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:49 pm

FJ540 wrote:Here I thought you slapped a Vortex image over the turret cap of a Schmitt & Bender and just didn't want to show off how baller you really roll. :P

I just put a pair of Steiner p4xi's on my .458S' last week. Had a defective one sent via Amazon Warehouse deals, returned it, found out GovX had them and ordered one, a week later they cancelled my order because Steiner is out of stock... So back to Amazon and the next Warehouse deals p4xi and ordered a new one just in case... Well, the WD one was only missing the throw lever, and otherwise perfect. I decided to keep 'em both. :mrgreen:

I never claim to be baller, just balder. ;)
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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby FJ540 on Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:39 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:I never claim to be baller, just balder. ;)


That's a tough call between us. :lol:
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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby BigDog58 on Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:31 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:
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I see this is a Trick Shot rifle. Shoot it while standing on your head :shock:
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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby Bearcatrp on Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:25 pm

You folks who own the 458, any reason you went this route instead of 50 Beowulf? Been considering a Beowulf for awhile but read the long thread on AR15.com and now weighing both pro’s and cons between both. 458 has more ammo options from what I have read. Anything I’m missing?
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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby FJ540 on Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:42 pm

Bullet selection, barrel selection, Starline brass is in high enough demand they run it regularly.

Bottleneck cartridge is more accurate since it headspaces off the shoulder.

There's at least a prayer of SAAMI certification as it's not copywrited.

Bullet selection is the big one though. 50 Beowulf does win the KE race.
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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:19 pm

Bearcatrp wrote:You folks who own the 458, any reason you went this route instead of 50 Beowulf? Been considering a Beowulf for awhile but read the long thread on AR15.com and now weighing both pro’s and cons between both. 458 has more ammo options from what I have read. Anything I’m missing?

Honestly, because I shot FJs and had to have one, but projectile selection weighed in plus I have a soft spot for .45-70 so...
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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby FJ540 on Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:39 am

They're like a .45-70 "special" in context of .44 mag/special (without carrying the example down to actual variations in fps - it's figuratively accurate for illustration purposes). Or maybe .45-70 lite. :)

Since MN became suppressor friendly around the same time I got interested in a big bore AR; it dawned on me that this iteration was what the 300blk wanted to be all along for suppressed hunting. Mag capacity no longer mattered (4+1 in a 10rnd mag), and we're limited by the speed of sound - so the heaviest bullet we can launch around 1050fps wins. Well, with a 1:12 twist barrel, that's 600 or a little more grains! :shock: Or roughly a 12ga slug out of an AR pistol, hearing safe. :mrgreen:

The standard twist is 1:14, and it will also stabilize 600+gr, but the solid copper guys needed more twist.

I plan on hunting bear again this fall with mine, and if the NFA is neutered of cans, it will be with my 10.5" pistol sporting a suppressor.

50 Beowulf can't do that.
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Re: .458 SOCOM build opinions

Postby Holland&Holland on Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:51 am

There is just something about throwing a large chunk of hard cast lead downrange that feels so right!
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