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[Grayskies]

I'm always wanted a o/u 12 gauge anyone know anything about these two?

CZ-USA CZ Redhead Premier Target Shotgun 12 Gauge 30"
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020417325?pid=457285

Weatherby Orion Sporting Clays Shotgun 12 Gauge 30"
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1021295162?pid=226651

Thanks

[rtk]

The CZ is a bit heafty but a good gun.

[Grayskies]

Is there anything lighter in that price range? I'd love a browning citori but they're way to expensive.

[Holland&Holland]

Have you looked at the Franchi ones? My friend likes his.

[Grayskies]

They are hard to find and the Instinct Sporting II is 2k msrp

https://www.franchiusa.com/sporting-shotguns

They look nice, if it was 1.5k I would buy one.

[Holland&Holland]

Sorry, thought they were a bit more economical.

I would go the CZ route myself, I have not owned one but I have several of their rifles and they are too quality. I have handled their shotguns at shows and they seem on par.

[Grayskies]

It's ok, it did get me looking at a:

Browning Cynergy CX Composite

https://www.browning.com/products/firea ... -Gray.html

Maybe I should just save some a buy the Franchi...

[Rip Van Winkle]

Up until 10ish years ago the Orion's were made by SKB of Japan and were very good quality. I think they are currently made by someone in Turkey. I've never handled a new one, and can't comment on their quality.

[armedwalleye]

Have you considered an older Ruger Red Label?

Unfortunately, it seems like there are only two O/U classes, those that are low cost and swing like a piece of lumber and those that are are expensive but are joys to hold and shoot. Not much in between from what I've seen.

[crbutler]

It’s all about how well the gun fits you.

Decent double gun and economical are mutually exclusive terms in my experience.

If I was trying to do it on a budget, I’d go looking for a used piece. I’d rather have a good fit cosmetically beat up gun than a new one that doesn’t fit me well.

Strangely, an old SxS Stevens 16 ga I picked up for $350 hits every bit as well as my Perazzi (which was also a used purchase).

[Grayskies]

I think I'll have to drive to a bunch of gun stores and see if any of them have any. I don't under stand how $1.5k is a budget gun?

[crbutler]

It’s called inflation....

Thanks for nothing, Joe, Donald, and the rest of the politicians.

[Holland&Holland]

Have you considered an older Ruger Red Label?

Unfortunately, it seems like there are only two O/U classes, those that are low cost and swing like a piece of lumber and those that are are expensive but are joys to hold and shoot. Not much in between from what I've seen.

Some times you need a solid 2x4.

[Grayskies]

I ordered a

https://www.beretta.com/en/686-silver-p ... -sporting/

I think she'll be a good gun, thank you all for helping!

I might add some extended choke tubes but that would be mostly because I think they look cool, gold might go with the trigger.

Next I'll need to find a club or league to play in and a buch of ammo. My brother wants me to reload.

[grimbeaver]

Nice buy. It will serve you well for many many years. I reload shotgun loads. To be honest for 12ga it's not worth it. And you won't find components any easier than ammo right now. Anything you shoot a lot you will want a progressive press. A MEC 9000GN is $775 (msrp) and that's probably the cheapest I would consider (if buying new). I have single stage presses for 20ga and 28ga. The progressive I can do 400+/hr on. The single stage is more like 120/hr. And more importantly even expensive machines have quirks that you will curse and will slow you down.