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Extreme Long Range-Sniper Rifle

Postby jdege on Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:32 pm

https://sam.gov/opp/66418ecd71f5498ba4544d889459a6b2/view
Extreme Long Range-Sniper Rifle
United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) is seeking to replace older anti- materiel and anti-personnel rifles such as the M107 and MK15 with a newer system. This Sources Sought Notice will provide valuable market research on state-of-the-art sniper systems. Interested vendors must provide their submission through Marvin Marcia marvin.marcia@socom.mil.

Please see the attached requirements document for full details.

ELR-SR RFI v2.pdf


That sounds fun...
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Re: Extreme Long Range-Sniper Rifle

Postby OldmanFCSA on Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:27 pm

Just join our sport called King of 2-Mile where we are currently shooting out past 4400 yards and making consistent hits on target. There are other groups specializing in ELR competitions in both Light and Heavy classes.
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Re: Extreme Long Range-Sniper Rifle

Postby OldmanFCSA on Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:25 am

Barrett has probably already won that contract with their release of the MRADELR rifle system available in multiple cartridges like the 416 Barrett which is a shortened 50BMG cartridge.
Other rifles could be better like the Cadex but Barrett has the lock on the market (I personally would like to see Barrett knocked off the platform).
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Re: Extreme Long Range-Sniper Rifle

Postby Lumpy on Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:19 am

I presume that portability means that 20mm like the Anzio is out. Rule Of Cool though:

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Re: Extreme Long Range-Sniper Rifle

Postby Bearcatrp on Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:38 am

That is one long barrel.
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Re: Extreme Long Range-Sniper Rifle

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:07 pm

OldmanFCSA wrote:Barrett has probably already won that contract with their release of the MRADELR rifle system available in multiple cartridges like the 416 Barrett which is a shortened 50BMG cartridge.
Other rifles could be better like the Cadex but Barrett has the lock on the market (I personally would like to see Barrett knocked off the platform).

Is the Cadex better than AI?
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Re: Extreme Long Range-Sniper Rifle

Postby Lumpy on Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:15 pm

Bearcatrp wrote:That is one long barrel.


That is one long bullet:

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Re: Extreme Long Range-Sniper Rifle

Postby OldmanFCSA on Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:46 am

Bearcatrp wrote:That is one long barrel.


My 50BMG target rifle has a 38" SS K&P cut-rifled barrel - it looks long compared to the 29" stock barrel.
Some of the ELR shooters are using 42" barrels and most manufacturers have up to 45" as the maximum length available.
The barrel in this picture looks long because of the added suppressor length.

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Re: Extreme Long Range-Sniper Rifle

Postby OldmanFCSA on Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:12 am

Lumpy wrote:
Bearcatrp wrote:That is one long barrel.

My 50BMG target rifle has a 38" SS K&P cut-rifled barrel - it looks long compared to the 29" stock barrel.
Some of the ELR shooters are using 42" barrels and most manufacturers have up to 45" as the maximum length available.
The barrel in this picture looks long because of the added suppressor length.

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That is one long bullet:

20mm ammo.jpg


That projectile looks long as in a long bearing surface.

My Match style cartridges are also long. Case body is 3.905" long, Projectile is 2.699" long, Driving band is 0.150" long, Boattail is 0.375" long, Driving band diameter is 0.5105", Bore-rider diameter is 0.502", Barrel bore diameter is 0.498", Barrel groove diameter is 0.510", Distance off lands is 0.030", Projectile is seated into case body about 0.160", Bore-rider diameter sets into special cut lands of 0.5030" diameter of chamber/throat, Y.M.M.V.

2.699 - 0.375 - 0.150 = 2.174" Case length 3.905 + exposed projectile length 2.174 = 6.079" - 0.010" seating depth variation = 6.069" actual cartridge length as compared to the military standard for this cartridge being 5.450"



Please note I don't like to use the term "BULLET" as its definition has been abused by so many as to make determination of actual use seem to be the total cartridge assembly, and to some, as myself and other hand-loaders, the projectile which is loaded into the cartridge assembly.

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