Magnum Research 1911?

[Pat Cannon]

Bul has been making 1911s for years; I wonder if the Magnum Research gun is different, other than slide markings, from the ones sold under the ones sold under the EAA or Charles Daly names.

My favorite flame on that thread:

Buying a Desert Eagle 1911 is like buying Japanese Scotch!

(The thing is, if I ran across Japanese Scotch I couldn't resist trying it.)

[monschman]

taint that bad, not quite as peaty but taint bad all the same

[sigsteve]

Has anyone noticed that the ad from the link provided in this thread says it's a .45 ACP. Nothing about a .50AE version. Anyone heard if they are making a .50AE version?

[Pat]

Bul has been making 1911s for years; I wonder if the Magnum Research gun is different, other than slide markings, from the ones sold under the ones sold under the EAA or Charles Daly names.

My favorite flame on that thread:

Buying a Desert Eagle 1911 is like buying Japanese Scotch!

(The thing is, if I ran across Japanese Scotch I couldn't resist trying it.)

Suntory Old is excellent. If you ever run across some, grab it!

[Seismic Sam]

Has anyone noticed that the ad from the link provided in this thread says it's a .45 ACP. Nothing about a .50AE version. Anyone heard if they are making a .50AE version?

The 50 Action Express cartridge is a full-on magnum round, and there have been only TWO attempts, both of which failed miserably, to port that round to a 1911 TYPE platform. The first, which was the ultimate failed design of the 44 Automag line of guns (the Mark V, chambered in 50AE), is klunky, kind of grotesque, and a collector's item because the gun sooner or later (and generally sooner) it gives it up and breaks apart somwhere in the slide or frame.

The latter is a true, incredibly beefed up 1911 called the Grizzly LAR, and this design fared little better. The 1911 design can simply NOT withstand the mechanical shock of a 50AE cartridge, and there are very few 50 AE LAR's left because all of the rest of them are already broken and beyond repair.

FYI, Magnum Research got its claim to fame with the original Desert Eagle design in 44 Remington Magnum, which did what the 44 Automag could NOT do, and that was survive. (And yes, I was the owner of an original AMT 44 Automag in 1976.) The designer of the Desert Eagle is a resident of the Twin Cities, and a good friend of Pinnacle on this board. Then Evan Whildin came along, and created the 50 Action Express, which was a 50 caliber cartridge with a 44 magnum rebated rim, so it would work with the same bolt face. The Desert Eagle design is heavily overbuilt, and handles the 50AE cartridge with NO problem, and is actual military issue for the Israeli army. It weight over 5 pounds UNLOADED, and has NOTHING in common with a 1911.

Magnum Research also private licenses the Jericho 941 series of handguns from Europe in 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP. All of these are CZ clones, well built, and quite heavy. For a very short time, Magnum Research also sold the ASAI One-Pro in 45 ACP, and this was a Swiss design from the same people who built the Okerilon AA guns. I was lucky enough to buy a used one, and this gun has the SWEETEST DA trigger pull of any DA semi-auto pistol EVER built.

But to get back to the corral, Desert Eagle does NOT mean it's chambered in 50 Action Express. In addition, there is a huge mismatch in cartridge length, which would prohibit the 50AE from ever fitting in a 1911. The longest 45 ACP cartridge is the 230 grain FMJ bullet with an OAL of 1.260", and the standard OAL fior the 50AE is 1.580", which means it wouldn't fit in the mag, and if you did make a mag big enough for it, you would essentially have to machine out almost ALL of the metal in the frame to make it fit, and then if you could get it to chamber, the recoil and pressure would destroy the gun with the very first shot.