The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby hammAR on Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:20 am

farmerj wrote:what bobs and weaves? Heads.

What do things pivot around? Pelvis.

What should you aim for? COM.

So while you are pumping away TRYING for a head shot, it's likely the larger, less likely to move target of the pelvis will be sustaining more hits.

Where are you likely to have a greater chance of a hit here?


This isn't a discussion about boxing or dancing, the head bob and weave is a mis-direct.....
and even IF they do and I put 4 .230gr's an inch under your chin,
I have destroyed major big vessels, air pipe, and blew out the backbone.....

besides how are you going to "aim" at the pelvic girdle when you can't find it.......

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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby farmerj on Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:21 am

hammAR wrote:besides how are you going to "aim" at the pelvic girdle when you can't find it.......

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POINT....


Now we know why the have pant's on the ground.

Just aim about the belt line.
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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby JoeH on Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:38 am

I've been joking around a little in this thread because I find the notion of the BEST carry gun to be absolutely ridiculous. The argument that there can be one model of gun that all shooters should carry has absolutely no merit.

Saying that everyone should carry a Glock 19 is like saying everyone should wear Crocs.
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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby hammAR on Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:51 am

JoeH wrote:Saying that everyone should carry a Glock 19 is like saying everyone should wear Crocs.


....and drive a Prius..(related to a Glock).......... :shock:
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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby Squib Joe on Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:10 am

JoeH wrote:I've been joking around a little in this thread because I find the notion of the BEST carry gun to be absolutely ridiculous. The argument that there can be one model of gun that all shooters should carry has absolutely no merit.

Saying that everyone should carry a Glock 19 is like saying everyone should wear Crocs.


Sure would make my job easier. Just have to stock one gun.
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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:16 am

Squib Joe wrote:
JoeH wrote:I've been joking around a little in this thread because I find the notion of the BEST carry gun to be absolutely ridiculous. The argument that there can be one model of gun that all shooters should carry has absolutely no merit.

Saying that everyone should carry a Glock 19 is like saying everyone should wear Crocs.


Sure would make my job easier. Just have to stock one gun.


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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby 1911fan on Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:04 am

Please note, the Zipper is not in particular a pelvic shot, its bringing the gun from holster or low ready and as soon as the front sight crosses body mass, the trigger is to be pulled repeatedly until the front sight clears the top of the body mass. While some may say the pelvic shot is not recommended or no proof in data that it works, the concept behind the zipper is not just one shot to the pelvis, but to get a "recruit" to get hits on a body in a crisis situation.
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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby westberg on Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:10 am

1911fan wrote:Please note, the Zipper is not in particular a pelvic shot, its bringing the gun from holster or low ready and as soon as the front sight crosses body mass, the trigger is to be pulled repeatedly until the front sight clears the top of the body mass. While some may say the pelvic shot is not recommended or no proof in data that it works, the concept behind the zipper is not just one shot to the pelvis, but to get a "recruit" to get hits on a body in a crisis situation.

At what point are they taught to see the front sight, that seems to be counter to using the zipper method. I could understand being aware of the level of your hand or gun.
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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby hammAR on Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:35 am

westberg wrote:At what point are they taught to see the front sight.................


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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby bensdad on Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:37 am

My grandma broke her pelvis. She could still use the phone and put on clothes. If a BG gets shot in the pelvis, can he/she still shoot their gun?
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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby hammAR on Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:41 am

bensdad wrote:My grandma broke her pelvis. She could still use the phone and put on clothes. If a BG gets shot in the pelvis, can he/she still shoot their gun?


Yes, and you failed because you did not eliminate the threat......... :cheers:
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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby bensdad on Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:50 am

hammAR wrote:
bensdad wrote:My grandma broke her pelvis. She could still use the phone and put on clothes. If a BG gets shot in the pelvis, can he/she still shoot their gun?


Yes, and you failed because you did not eliminate the threat......... :cheers:


I know. Don't rub it in. she looked dead when I left. had to wait 12 more years for that inheritance.
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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby White Horseradish on Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:53 am

hammAR wrote:
JoeH wrote:Saying that everyone should carry a Glock 19 is like saying everyone should wear Crocs.


....and drive a Prius..(related to a Glock).......... :shock:

Ok, so Crocs, Glock and Prius and I am all set?
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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby plblark on Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:00 am

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Re: The BEST Carry Handgun and Condition.....

Postby bensdad on Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:03 am

Not to derail this epic derailment, but anybody talk about the emotional component of choosing and keeping/refusing to let go of a particular carry gun? I'll be the first to admit that I KNOW there are more accurate, more reliable, more popular, higher capacity, more concealable handguns with better service departments and track records than my chosen tool (Taurus MilPro series). I keep it (shoot IPSC, carry, practice with, brag about) because I like it. I likely shoot my 1911 better than my 145.
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