agents choose to carry personal weapons instead of Kimber

[rugersol]

issued to agents in the fall of 2009 ... manufacturer's warranty expiring at the end of 2010

I'm not gonna say Kimber's incapable of making a good gun ... I've owned a few ... most had one problem or 'nother ... I've had trouble with Colt's, too.

DIFFERENCE is, when I sent a Colt in, that a "gunsmith" clearly F'd with, I got it back with a long list of what they did, and "NO CHARGE" at the bottom.

When I sent a BRAND NEW $1,000 Kimber in (that was several years ago), I had to pay ANOTHER $150 to Kimber to get it to work right ... and fact is, it STILL didn't!

My personal experience aside, that's a 1yr "warranty" (http://www.kimberamerica.com/warranty). You send a Ruger, S&W (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category1_750001_750051_757818_-1_757814_757812), or Colt back, anytime you like, and unless you cut it in half with a hacksaw, they'll fix it ... for free!

[Heffay]

I'll put my 3" Kimber against any other carry pistol out there in .45 and see whose fails first. I have not had one problem with mine...ever. And I bought it used for $700.00

Anecdotes ain't evidence.

[Erik_Pakieser]

Anecdotally, in the classes I have been teaching, it seems that the compact M1911s have a high malfunction rate compared to other guns, with Springfield and Kimber being the most problematic. I have not kept track of specific numbers.

Full and "Commander" size M1911s seem to work just fine.

[mmcnx2]

In terms of Compact 1911's I never had any trouble with my para or springfield. My wifes EMP has run 100% out of the box and eats anything I've feed it.

I think this is just another example of the typical Kimber issues.

[scotts87iroc]

Anyone that buys a 3" 1911 in .45 is foolish, especially if they are going to use it for covering their own ass....................

Not very opinionated are we?

I carry a 3" 1911 in .45 of the Kimber persuasion and I use it for covering my ***. I haven't had any issues with it either. It shoots whatever I put through it. Maybe the foolish person is the one that makes these comments and doesn't know how to shoot the gun!

I hope my comments don't offend, but I'm offended being called foolish when I don't think anybody on this board knows me personally.

[Seismic Sam]

Anyone that buys a 3" 1911 in .45 is foolish, especially if they are going to use it for covering their own ass....................

Not very opinionated are we?

I carry a 3" 1911 in .45 of the Kimber persuasion and I use it for covering my ***. I haven't had any issues with it either. It shoots whatever I put through it. Maybe the foolish person is the one that makes these comments and doesn't know how to shoot the gun!

I hope my comments don't offend, but I'm offended being called foolish when I don't think anybody on this board knows me personally.

In the words of Don Henley, GET OVER IT!! Pretty much everyone on this board knows me, and I'm generally called an idiot, wiseazz, loudmouth, and reloading troll under the bridge. Count your blessings while we still don't know who you really are!!

[mmcnx2]

.... I'm generally called a .... reloading troll under the bridge...

You say that like it is bad thing. I thought that was your good if not best trait.

[hammAR]

Anyone that buys a 3" 1911 in .45 is foolish, especially if they are going to use it for covering their own ass....................

Not very opinionated are we?

I carry a 3" 1911 in .45 of the Kimber persuasion and I use it for covering my ***. I haven't had any issues with it either. It shoots whatever I put through it. Maybe the foolish person is the one that makes these comments and doesn't know how to shoot the gun!

I hope my comments don't offend, but I'm offended being called foolish when I don't think anybody on this board knows me personally.

Yes, I am very opinionated, I am surely not offended, and you just helped form yet another opinion..................
and I sure as hell was not aiming my post at you, because you are correct that I do not know you, but hey you are the one that volunteered to stand up and pretend that you were the target........

[2beer]

Anyone that buys a 3" 1911 in .45 is foolish, especially if they are going to use it for covering their own ass....................

Not very opinionated are we?

I carry a 3" 1911 in .45 of the Kimber persuasion and I use it for covering my ***. I haven't had any issues with it either. It shoots whatever I put through it. Maybe the foolish person is the one that makes these comments and doesn't know how to shoot the gun!

I hope my comments don't offend, but I'm offended being called foolish when I don't think anybody on this board knows me personally.

[diskdoctr]

I carry a Citadel 1911 in 3.5" .45. Totally trust it. Have a Kimber and a Colt that cannot be trusted. They are pretty and I will take them to the range from time to time for failure practice if I feel the need. Otherwise they are safe queens, and not worth their weight in steel. Both have been back in for service, the Kimber 3 times. CS in both cases say the firearm is fine. Anyway, the Citadels are a trustworthy option and cheaper than the PT1911.

[Rem700]

I have a couple of pre series II Kimbers in both 4" and 5" I regularly carry the Kimber Pro CDP.

I HAD a series II Kimber 3" CDP, I really liked the compactness light weight and accuracy. Most undependable POS I ever owned the two happiest days was the day I got it and the day I got rid of it.

[scotts87iroc]

Not sure why Seismic Sam got all bent out of shape with my comments!!!

HammAR, I understand you have a lot of experience with guns and using them, but to say that people are foolish for using a 3" 1911 begs the question, why? Not all of them are unreliable. And it's not only the Kimber 1911 that experience problems. It was mentioned on this thread already that other makes have experienced issues also. It's not only the 3", but I have heard of plenty of guns in all lengths that have an issue of some sort. My comment was regarding the name calling and how it's not necessary.

[mmcnx2]

I think the point a few of us expereinced 1911 guys are making is...

KImber = unreliable
3" 1911 = can be unreliable
Kimber + 3" 1911 = what the heck are you thinking

[timwarner]

I think the point a few of us expereinced 1911 guys are making is...

KImber = unreliable
3" 1911 = can be unreliable
Kimber + 3" 1911 = what the heck are you thinking

+1

Both the kimber's I've owned have been nice, worked great, etc.
But, based off of what I've heard, plus adding what I've heard about 3" 1911 problems...

I would avoid a 3", and especially a 3" kimber.

[tman]

Mrs tman065 just bought a 3" Kimber. She's put a litle over 100 rounds downrange so far. There were two consecutive mags that had some FTRTB's. Added some lube to the rails, and she was back off to the races.