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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby TC95GT on Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:16 pm

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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby phorvick on Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:26 pm

TC95GT wrote:CZ 75B

I have a CZ 75B SA and it is one of the best guns...most accurate...that I own. But...in the "only one" scenario I would note that as great as the CZ is, it does prefer to get cleaned once in a while, and they have a reputation of being a tad ammo sensitive (mine won't shoot Blazer aluminum for example...a fairly common issue). My Glocks are happy as pigs in mud when dirty.

But that CZ is great....
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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby Fast351 on Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:34 pm

Pinnacle wrote:Seems to be the overwealming choice here and G19 is THE Gun in Iraq for Contractors. Easy to carry - big fuel tanks available - About as reliableas you can reasonably expect from a small machine.

I am starting to think that the G19 is the winner.



The small machine comment is something to think about. Firearms are relatively complicated machines when it comes to semiautos. IMO, the less parts the better, the less handfitted stuff the better.

You can take a Glock apart (detail strip) with nothing more than a nail of the correct size, and you have to break quite a few parts before it actually completely stops working. For example, the trigger return spring could be completely removed and the firearm still works by holding the trigger rearward while shooting.

For playing in the sandbox I can think of no better semiauto. Glocks run better dry than they do wet, and there are several examples of people running them for 1000s of rounds without cleaning, and one guy who took his Glock 21 and tried to make it not function by filling it with sand, putting it in salt water, etc, and couldn't get it to not work after a little brushing dirt out of it.

As you can tell, I'm a big fan. It's because they're so simple, so ugly, and so "loose" if you want to call them that, that they're reliable.

I own many brands of firearms. I love Sigs for their accuracy, good triggers, and just the way they feel in your hands, and there are a 1/2 dozen other semi-autos I own that all have their strong points, but if my life were on the line and it absolutely has to go bang every time, give me a stock Glock every day of the week.
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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby IDPA Shooter on Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:53 pm

Fast351 wrote:
Pinnacle wrote:Seems to be the overwealming choice here and G19 is THE Gun in Iraq for Contractors. Easy to carry - big fuel tanks available - About as reliableas you can reasonably expect from a small machine.

I am starting to think that the G19 is the winner.



The small machine comment is something to think about. Firearms are relatively complicated machines when it comes to semiautos. IMO, the less parts the better, the less handfitted stuff the better.

You can take a Glock apart (detail strip) with nothing more than a nail of the correct size, and you have to break quite a few parts before it actually completely stops working. For example, the trigger return spring could be completely removed and the firearm still works by holding the trigger rearward while shooting.

For playing in the sandbox I can think of no better semiauto. Glocks run better dry than they do wet, and there are several examples of people running them for 1000s of rounds without cleaning, and one guy who took his Glock 21 and tried to make it not function by filling it with sand, putting it in salt water, etc, and couldn't get it to not work after a little brushing dirt out of it.

As you can tell, I'm a big fan. It's because they're so simple, so ugly, and so "loose" if you want to call them that, that they're reliable.

I own many brands of firearms. I love Sigs for their accuracy, good triggers, and just the way they feel in your hands, and there are a 1/2 dozen other semi-autos I own that all have their strong points, but if my life were on the line and it absolutely has to go bang every time, give me a stock Glock every day of the week.


I'm with Mike, and am rapidly becoming a Smithh M&P fan, but I would have to go Glock. If it is my only gun, I'd have Keith put in the stronger trigger return spring and be good for 100,000. We have a IDPA shooter with 110,000 rds thru his G19, misfires, FTE, jams he says, what are they?
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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby justaguy on Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:50 pm

Fast351 wrote:
Pinnacle wrote:Seems to be the overwealming choice here and G19 is THE Gun in Iraq for Contractors. Easy to carry - big fuel tanks available - About as reliableas you can reasonably expect from a small machine.

I am starting to think that the G19 is the winner.



The small machine comment is something to think about. Firearms are relatively complicated machines when it comes to semiautos. IMO, the less parts the better, the less handfitted stuff the better.

You can take a Glock apart (detail strip) with nothing more than a nail of the correct size, and you have to break quite a few parts before it actually completely stops working. For example, the trigger return spring could be completely removed and the firearm still works by holding the trigger rearward while shooting.

For playing in the sandbox I can think of no better semiauto. Glocks run better dry than they do wet, and there are several examples of people running them for 1000s of rounds without cleaning, and one guy who took his Glock 21 and tried to make it not function by filling it with sand, putting it in salt water, etc, and couldn't get it to not work after a little brushing dirt out of it.

As you can tell, I'm a big fan. It's because they're so simple, so ugly, and so "loose" if you want to call them that, that they're reliable.

I own many brands of firearms. I love Sigs for their accuracy, good triggers, and just the way they feel in your hands, and there are a 1/2 dozen other semi-autos I own that all have their strong points, but if my life were on the line and it absolutely has to go bang every time, give me a stock Glock every day of the week.


Add light weight, light rail, factory/after market parts, number of people that can work on them, easy break down, ease of use, and somewhat cheap to buy. The M&P and XD with time may have all of that but not right now. I’m a fan of the 1911, but I think the Glock beats it. I would say the G30 but that’s just me.

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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby fatboy97 on Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:59 pm

I have to agree with a few of the postings:

1. Glock 19

But my next one is a personal favorite:

2. Ruger GP100 6"

You can shoot .38 at the range, but still have it for home defense and shoot .357mag. You could go to a 4" barrel if you want to carry, but the 6" is a GREAT range gun.
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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby mnglocker on Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:01 pm

fatboy97 wrote:I have to agree with a few of the postings:

1. Glock 19

But my next one is a personal favorite:

2. Ruger GP100 6"

You can shoot .38 at the range, but still have it for home defense and shoot .357mag. You could go to a 4" barrel if you want to carry, but the 6" is a GREAT range gun.


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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby Fast351 on Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:36 am

Thread drift:

You guys with the GP100s: did you do anything with the trigger? I found that shooting left handed the trigger was really too heavy for accurate shooting past 15 yards or so, so I installed that Wolff spring kit. I think I went with the 10# main and 8# trigger return spring. Holy cow! What a difference! Shoots like a new gun.

Since then I've done quite a bit of polishing work which smoothed things out a little, but not anything like that spring kit.

Love the GP100. 4" stainless for me.
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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby justaguy on Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:50 am

You bastards right after I told myself I’m done buying guns for 2-3 months. I have been holding back the urge on a GP100, and everyone has to talk about how much they love theirs.

Slim is this a gun you are buying or do you own this “magic” gun already? You say you own 6 guns, is that 6 handguns or all guns? Not to question what is best for you, but if they are bought and paid for why not have 2-3 handguns? I haven’t looked into it but I don’t even know if it is legal to down size to just one gun. If it is legal it shouldn’t be. Like others have said if by chance something happens the one gun you have will be taken, and you now have non.
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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby mnglocker on Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:55 am

Fast351 wrote:Thread drift:

You guys with the GP100s: did you do anything with the trigger? I found that shooting left handed the trigger was really too heavy for accurate shooting past 15 yards or so, so I installed that Wolff spring kit. I think I went with the 10# main and 8# trigger return spring. Holy cow! What a difference! Shoots like a new gun.

Since then I've done quite a bit of polishing work which smoothed things out a little, but not anything like that spring kit.

Love the GP100. 4" stainless for me.


Herby over at Frontiers Man sucked me into buying mine, this one allready had a tricked out trigger in it. I'm not sure wich springs, but it definetly has a polish job on the internals. The DA pull is right around 6lbs, the SA pull has got to be around 1lb. Jac714 can testify to that. 8-) The DA is smoother and lighter than that of a S&W 686, the only thing the Smith has on it is a shorter take up on the SA pull.
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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby TC95GT on Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:15 am

phorvick wrote:
TC95GT wrote:CZ 75B

I have a CZ 75B SA and it is one of the best guns...most accurate...that I own. But...in the "only one" scenario I would note that as great as the CZ is, it does prefer to get cleaned once in a while, and they have a reputation of being a tad ammo sensitive (mine won't shoot Blazer aluminum for example...a fairly common issue). My Glocks are happy as pigs in mud when dirty.

But that CZ is great....


I've never heard of the ammo sensitivity issue with them. Mine shoots whatever I put in it. I've thought about getting a Glock but I just can't get used to the ergonomics. A 10mm would be nice though. 8-)
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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby brotherslims on Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:10 pm

Okay, I've come to a decision. I realize that I'm not a one gun kind of a man. I don't want to set myself up for failure so this is what I've come up with. You just can't beat the quality of Glock...not to mention the ease of obtaining parts, holsters and other accesories. After handlling the G19, I came to the conclusion that I loved the way the Glock felt in my hand and handled on the range. However, the G19 seem a little on the smallish side for range work and little on the large side for carry. That said, I've decided that I need to have more than one gun. I'm picking up a Glock 17 for range, home defense and training and a Glock 26 for carry and back up duty to the G17. Just make sense and I can use my G17 mags in my G26. I feel this is the best choice for me...and I'll have two handgun :D . Thanks for all of your feedback and opinions. Time to find some deals on a G17 and G26!
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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby phorvick on Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:36 pm

brotherslims wrote:Okay, I've come to a decision. I realize that I'm not a one gun kind of a man. I don't want to set myself up for failure so this is what I've come up with. You just can't beat the quality of Glock...not to mention the ease of obtaining parts, holsters and other accesories. After handlling the G19, I came to the conclusion that I loved the way the Glock felt in my hand and handled on the range. However, the G19 seem a little on the smallish side for range work and little on the large side for carry. That said, I've decided that I need to have more than one gun. I'm picking up a Glock 17 for range, home defense and training and a Glock 26 for carry and back up duty to the G17. Just make sense and I can use my G17 mags in my G26. I feel this is the best choice for me...and I'll have two handgun :D . Thanks for all of your feedback and opinions. Time to find some deals on a G17 and G26!
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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby jerry45 on Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:41 pm

Yup, still have not placed my dealer order, maybe tomorrow. Both are available at $449 but only if I place them on this "once a year" order direct from Glock. My regular price at $479 is not to bad either in case you miss this special.
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Re: If you only had one...what would it be?

Postby fatboy97 on Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:08 pm

Fast351 wrote:You guys with the GP100s: did you do anything with the trigger?


No, the only thing I did was change out the grips... Owned this one since 1992:

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