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Re: wet gun

Postby 870TC on Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:39 pm

I think a gun in a ziplock bag is probably going to have condensation on it/in it by the time you get home. I would just let the gun get wet, and just hose it off with WD-40 when you get home.
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Re: wet gun

Postby bobbydamit on Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:01 am

870TC wrote:I think a gun in a ziplock bag is probably going to have condensation on it/in it by the time you get home. I would just let the gun get wet, and just hose it off with WD-40 when you get home.

I have been lucky enough to have worked for 40 years in the refrigeration business and 20 of those years combining the forensics of metallurgy for failure analysis. It is only my opinion, but anytime you trap moisture in a confined area of a gun, i.e. here the entire gun, you are asking for corrosion to be enhanced. Proper coating of bare metal can take water all day in an evaporative climate, [open air], but trapped moisture and oxygen are a bad idea even if properly coated with moisture repelling lubricant.

Plus, considering the fact that I have never witnessed a street cop, or a soldier in the jungles of Nam, carrying his gun in the rain in a plastic bag, makes a good argument for loss of use of same gun, in a need situation. Let it get wet, coat the springs accordingly, blow off and use a moisture dissipating spray like suggested when you get home and don't worry about it. Heck, even plastic covered long gun cases increase the likelihood of rust on a stored gun in a damp area, like the basement closet syndrome. Air compressors and a needle spray gun is our friends. Baggies are for sammitches. 8-)
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Re: wet gun

Postby yukonjasper on Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:20 am

Lots of great thoughts here. Looks like the g26or the g36 IWB gets the nod. I'll make sure whichever i choose has been lubed up (not overlubed) and then plan on stripping and hitting it with the air compressor when I get it home. I believe it will only get splash wet, I'm not planning on going swimming.

FWIW I think I saw a YouTube clip where a guy shoots a Glock in a water barrel.
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Re: wet gun

Postby hammAR on Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:37 am

bobbydamit wrote:Plus, considering the fact that I have never witnessed .............. a soldier in the jungles of Nam, carrying his gun in the rain in a plastic bag, .................................... Baggies are for sammitches. 8-)


Barring the the standard GI issue plastic muzzle covers,
many used finger condoms (finger cots) to keep water and crap out of muzzles.....
one avoided the baggies at all costs........
glad you made it home........... :cheers:
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Re: wet gun

Postby Bitter Bastard on Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:27 pm

I'll pile on by saying water/wetness doesn't really matter. I took a pistol class a couple years ago and it rained all day long. Magazines were dropped in water puddles, ammo was loaded wet, etc. I just so happened to be using a Glock that day and it took it like a champ, no failures of any kind. I'm sure my 1911 or other guns could also handle it. I was using a normal Kydex OWB holster. When I got home and field stripped it, there was still water in the frame. I detail stripped it, oiled it, and put it away.

Water is no big concern. Even if you have a few parts with worn finish, in a day or few days time any rust will still be on the surface and can easily be cleaned up with an oily toothbrush or other light scrubbing.

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Re: wet gun

Postby Heffay on Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:18 pm

Glock. They can shoot underwater. That's why the SEALs use them.
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Re: wet gun

Postby gyrfalcon on Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:39 pm

Dave Pendleton wrote:...I clean them in the sink using with Simple Green and hot water....


Why, are you some sort of hippie freak? There are a ton of other cleaning solutions to use (heck even dishsoap is probably better) that don't cause Aluminum Embrittlement or other such issues with firearms.
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Re: wet gun

Postby Dave Pendleton on Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:53 pm

gyrfalcon wrote:
Dave Pendleton wrote:...I clean them in the sink using with Simple Green and hot water....


Why, are you some sort of hippie freak? There are a ton of other cleaning solutions to use (heck even dishsoap is probably better) that don't cause Aluminum Embrittlement or other such issues with firearms.


As far as I know GLOCK does not use Aluminum in the construction of their pistols.
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Re: wet gun

Postby gyrfalcon on Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:49 pm

Dave Pendleton wrote:...As far as I know GLOCK does not use Aluminum in the construction of their pistols.


If you had Trijicon sights they have an aluminum sleeve... many other aftermarket parts use aluminum components. If it can cause issues with Aluminum, it probably isn't the best thing to be using on firearms in general. :mrgreen:
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Re: wet gun

Postby Dave Pendleton on Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:07 pm

gyrfalcon wrote:
Dave Pendleton wrote:...As far as I know GLOCK does not use Aluminum in the construction of their pistols.


If you had Trijicon sights they have an aluminum sleeve... many other aftermarket parts use aluminum components. If it can cause issues with Aluminum, it probably isn't the best thing to be using on firearms in general. :mrgreen:


I'm aware of the problems Simple Green can cause with aluminum.

As soon as it disolves one of my GLOCK pistols in the sink, I'll quit using it. Until then, it works and keeps my hands soft and supple...
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Re: wet gun

Postby EJSG19 on Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:11 pm

Dave Pendleton wrote:
gyrfalcon wrote:
Dave Pendleton wrote:...As far as I know GLOCK does not use Aluminum in the construction of their pistols.


If you had Trijicon sights they have an aluminum sleeve... many other aftermarket parts use aluminum components. If it can cause issues with Aluminum, it probably isn't the best thing to be using on firearms in general. :mrgreen:


I'm aware of the problems Simple Green can cause with aluminum.

As soon as it disolves one of my GLOCK pistols in the sink, I'll quit using it. Until then, it works and keeps my hands soft and supple...


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Re: wet gun

Postby Rem700 on Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:03 pm

If useing a compressor to blow the gun out might want to make sure its dry air otherwise you may just be introduceing more moisture.
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Re: wet gun

Postby bobbydamit on Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:45 am

gyrfalcon wrote:
Dave Pendleton wrote:...I clean them in the sink using with Simple Green and hot water....


Why, are you some sort of hippie freak? There are a ton of other cleaning solutions to use (heck even dishsoap is probably better) that don't cause Aluminum Embrittlement or other such issues with firearms.

"Aluminium Embrittlement"? Neeever heard of it. Micro cracks and fatigue, from constant movement like airplane structures. Bet that is what you meant. Or simple corrosion like [White Rust]. Yup, just being a smart hinder. :lol: :lol:
I guess the boat building people are in real trouble, as are the car manufacturers and the airplane folks, as they need to stop using that nasty aluminium before someone washes their boat, and it dissapears. Hey! Ya Gota smile once a day, even if it is a bad hair or metal day.

Now, dishing it out means, you can take it, right?

Great metal discussion and the dry air is good idea. Any compresssor used in a gun room should have water seperator on it and some, like me, even use Dry Nitrogen for Sample prep and other [bare] metal work. With guns, I think the lubricants used will dissapate any moisture in the air from a compressor, but it is a good idea to hang a cheap seperator on the outlet of a shop or gun room compressor and drain it often.
Anyone want to chime in on the sweaty gun?? Now there is a rust problem. One last thought. Remove wood grips from a gun that got really wet, and let them dry off the gun. They can promote oxidation, especially at the very edge where they touch the metal. Now lets all go outside and play in the rain. Hey, we poor kids use to do exactly that, thunder and lightning Bears, Oh MY!! :roll:
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Re: wet gun

Postby RobD on Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:19 am

My shower setup... because you never know...

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Re: wet gun

Postby Pinnacle on Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:30 am

RobD wrote:My shower setup... because you never know...

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Cute...

This is the ONLY way to keep things dry... I have a FoodSaver that I use for Rafting trips on the Potomac... I seal a meal a first aid kit, and other little items for my bag... It is the ONLY way to keep things dry other than a pelican case which is bulky to carry - but once the bag is open - it is too late.
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