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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby gyrfalcon on Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:59 am

user293 wrote:believe it or not gyrfalcon, there are 9mm pistols out there that feel better in the hand, are more comfortable, have better triggers, shoot nicer, and have better groups at more than 20 yards than glocks.


believe it or not user293, I actually own a number of such pistols and while a glock might not be as accurate as a thompson encore it's damn accurate.

At 20 yards if your groups are bad it's not the glock, it's YOU.
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9mm Target Gun

Postby Snowgun on Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:14 am

Name a pistol that a glock is more accurate than. Hi point doesn't count.
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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby gyrfalcon on Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:19 am

Enjoy:

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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby PileDriver on Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:28 am

This is a simple issue of the use of "accurate" or "accuracy". The gun isn't inaccurate. You may not be either. It's what gun you can accurately shoot. I have a feeling that if you put a dozen guns in a dozen vices, they won't be that far off from each other. If you personally don't accurately shoot a Glock, don't get one. Same goes for a [pistol make/model]. I can't shoot 1911's worth a damn. Just is what it is.
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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby gyrfalcon on Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:40 am

PileDriver wrote:This is a simple issue of the use of "accurate" or "accuracy". The gun isn't inaccurate. You may not be either. It's what gun you can accurately shoot. I have a feeling that if you put a dozen guns in a dozen vices, they won't be that far off from each other. If you personally don't accurately shoot a Glock, don't get one. Same goes for a [pistol make/model]. I can't shoot 1911's worth a damn. Just is what it is.



+1... unless we're talking musket balls :D
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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby Snowgun on Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:30 am

gyrfalcon wrote:Enjoy:




:rotf: :rotf:

This has nothing to do with the statistical accuracy of a glock. All this proves is that some guy can fling lead and hit a 12 MOA target a couple times PRONE.

This would equate to being able to hit a 3" target at 25 yrds sometimes, PRONE.

That is ******* accuracy for a handgun.

Read a more scientific analysis of why the glock is really just a close quarters tool.

http://www.handgunsmag.com/2010/09/24/tactics_training_shot_022305/
MODEL LOAD VELOCITY ACCURACY (ins.)
............................................................25 yds. 50 yds. 100 yds.
Glock 23 Wolf 180-gr. FMJ 876 ____________3 ____4.8 ___10.3
Walther P99 Wolf 180-gr. FMJ 890 _________2.6 ___3.3 ___8.7
Les Baer Prowler Wolf 230-gr. FMJ 783 ____1.2 ___2.6 ___7.1
Notes: Velocity readings taken 12 feet from the muzzle with the Oehler 35P chronograph. Groups are an average of four five-shot groups fired prone.
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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby phorvick on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:05 pm

I have both the CZ75B SA and Shadow. The 75SA is as good as any "out of the box" for accuracy that I have in my possession. The Shadow is very nice also...trigger was a bit too light for my tastes though.
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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby Ironbear on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:24 pm

I don't know the price... but I see that Sig Sauer has started making P210's again....
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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby Snowgun on Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:56 pm

phorvick wrote: The Shadow is very nice also...trigger was a bit too light for my tastes though.


No such thing! :)
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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby JoeH on Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:09 am

Springfield 1911 Loaded, 9mm, 5", Stainless

Mine looks just like this except for a FO front sight. I also sent it in to the Springfield Custom Shop for a blended magwell and a trigger job.

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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby brado on Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:18 am

JoeH wrote:Springfield 1911 Loaded, 9mm, 5", Stainless

Mine looks just like this except for a FO front sight. I also sent it in to the Springfield Custom Shop for a blended magwell and a trigger job.

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That would be a cool gun if it was a 45 :D
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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby rukwikenuf on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:25 pm

phorvick wrote:I have both the CZ75B SA and Shadow. The 75SA is as good as any "out of the box" for accuracy that I have in my possession. The Shadow is very nice also...trigger was a bit too light for my tastes though.


if that is implying that you want to sell your Shadow, lemme know
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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby Evo on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:26 pm

You should check out the Walther PPQ.
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Re: 9mm Target Gun

Postby mmcnx2 on Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:41 pm

brado wrote:
JoeH wrote:Springfield 1911 Loaded, 9mm, 5", Stainless

Mine looks just like this except for a FO front sight. I also sent it in to the Springfield Custom Shop for a blended magwell and a trigger job.

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That would be a cool gun if it was a 45 :D


Got one in 45, love it. My only thought was to have something just a little different, otherwise this was my original plan.
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