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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby rugersol on Mon May 21, 2012 8:44 am

gruste wrote:If I were to do it all again

... 'nother nice thing 'bout 'em ... if ya ever do change yer mind, I don't think yer gonna lose a whole helluva lot on it! ;)
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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby xd ED on Mon May 21, 2012 8:56 am

I'm curious: How do the SA triggers compare on the SBH vs. SRH?
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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby rugersol on Mon May 21, 2012 9:15 am

xd ED wrote:I'm curious: How do the SA triggers compare on the SBH vs. SRH?

Been a while since I shot a Redhawk ... last I did, trigger was purdy horrible! ... if ya can get inside ('er know somebody who can), I'm sure they can make it very, very nice! (that's usually true no matter what the gun)

Blackhawk triggers have a little creep. Again, if ya know someone, ya might be able to improve on it. I paid (way too much) fer trigger jobs on a set of Vaqueros once ... triggers were ridiculous ... and didn't do a thing fer my shootin'.

As a general rule, I'd guess ya'll be much happier with an outta-the-box Blackhawk (for the trigger), than a Redhawk.

Past that, a Blackhawk requires a different style of grip than what ya might otherwise be used to. Like learning to properly swing a golf club, it might seem a bit awkward, at first. Once ya get used to it (not very long), ya soon realize why the design's been so popular fer almost 140yr. ;)
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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby sgruenhagen44 on Mon May 21, 2012 6:08 pm

xd ED wrote:I'm curious: How do the SA triggers compare on the SBH vs. SRH?


I think they're pretty equal. On the SBHs you can disconnect a spring inside the grip, there are two of them. When you take one of them off it makes the trigger pull much lighter. My SBH had no trigger creep, you blow on it and it would go. My SRH is a little stiffer but almost no creep. Since my SRH is brand new, I'm kinda nervous about altering anything on it and have not tried anything to clean it up. Overall, I would say go with the SBH and save some dough. You will still have a very quality revolver.
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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby gunforhire on Mon May 21, 2012 7:49 pm

Another nice thing with a SBH, with the proper two handed grip you can shoot the gun just as fast as any SRH if that's the sole reason you are going for a SA/DA. Next time I get out to shoot, I will take a video demonstrating just that for you guys to critique and or laugh at
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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby xd ED on Mon May 21, 2012 10:22 pm

Appreciate the responses.
My reasons for comparing the two are that I was thinking the SRH would make a nice traveling companion hiking in the mountains, and was wondering how the SA would be for target shooting.
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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby Rem700 on Mon May 21, 2012 10:39 pm

gunforhire wrote:Another nice thing with a SBH, with the proper two handed grip you can shoot the gun just as fast as any SRH if that's the sole reason you are going for a SA/DA. Next time I get out to shoot, I will take a video demonstrating just that for you guys to critique and or laugh at


Dont know if I would place any money on that :P
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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby sgruenhagen44 on Tue May 22, 2012 6:01 am

Rem700 wrote:
gunforhire wrote:Another nice thing with a SBH, with the proper two handed grip you can shoot the gun just as fast as any SRH if that's the sole reason you are going for a SA/DA. Next time I get out to shoot, I will take a video demonstrating just that for you guys to critique and or laugh at


Dont know if I would place any money on that :P



Yea, I would agree. I could shoot my SBH pretty quick but its still not a DA. Are we talking sheer speed? Or Accuracy? Cuz if were talking sheer speed I would have to give the edge to the SRH.
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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby rugersol on Tue May 22, 2012 8:18 am

This guy thinks yer both FOS! ;) ...

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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby gunforhire on Tue May 22, 2012 8:20 am

gruste wrote:
Rem700 wrote:
gunforhire wrote:Another nice thing with a SBH, with the proper two handed grip you can shoot the gun just as fast as any SRH if that's the sole reason you are going for a SA/DA. Next time I get out to shoot, I will take a video demonstrating just that for you guys to critique and or laugh at how much I really suck


Dont know if I would place any money on that :P



Yea, I would agree. I could shoot my SBH pretty quick but its still not a DA. Are we talking sheer speed? Or Accuracy? Cuz if were talking sheer speed I would have to give the edge to the SRH.


I was talking about shooting accurately. Just to unload a cylinder I could never be that fast, :oops: but this guy could

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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby Greg on Tue May 22, 2012 10:29 am

I bought Joel Rs "flaregun" Ruger Redhawk conversion which has about a 3" barrel. Someone did a nice job on it, but it's more of a fun gun to shoot than a practical weapon.

With 44 Spec loads it pretty tame but with full 44 Mag loads it puts out a 2 foot fireball and huge BOOM...fun!! It stops everybody from shooting in an indoor range when they come over to see what the hell just happened.

My 3 screw Blackhawk in 30 Carbine does much the same, as does the Universal Enforcer M1 pistol; fun guns without much practical use.
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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby gunforhire on Tue May 22, 2012 2:13 pm

rugersol wrote:This guy thinks yer both FOS! ;) ...




Damn that's fast. I will never make 2 rounds in the time he unloaded both guns :o
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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby Rem700 on Wed May 23, 2012 10:59 pm

gunforhire wrote:
rugersol wrote:This guy thinks yer both FOS! ;) ...




Damn that's fast. I will never make 2 rounds in the time he unloaded both guns :o



Deuce is rather quick he usually makes the SASS state shoot in Sept at Ahlmans, Best I can do is low to mid 4s :cry:
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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby rugersol on Thu May 24, 2012 7:07 am

Rem700 wrote:Best I can do is low to mid 4s :cry:

Is that both pistols at once ... 'er one at a time? :|

From the design of the lockwork, using two hands, I'd give the edge to the SAA.

But I'd say length of the bbl, mass of the gun, and the load yer shootin', has a lot more to do with how fast ya can shoot a revolver ... and still hit what you're aimin' at.

For a field-pistol, presuming a heavier caliber, there's also the likelihood of flinching.

This is where the SAA's a double-edged sword. It's designed to have a little muzzle-flip to soak up some recoil ... at which, I think it's among the most comfortable to shoot ... and least likely to flinch. But, for flat out speed, it'd also be slower back on target ... by like a couple hunderdths of a second ... all else bein' equal (bbl length, mass, load).

I 'spose, if ya thought ya'd never get an accurate shot off ... 'til ya gotta jam the gun into the critter's jaw ... I might prefer a DA.

Past that, oz. fer oz., and half the price to boot, I'd take a 4 5/8in Blackhawk over a 3in Alaskan, any day! ... if not a 3 3/4in Vaquero!
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Re: Revolvers in 44 Mag, looking for an education

Postby gunforhire on Thu May 24, 2012 11:42 am

I didn't start this thread, But I am certainly gettin educated :D so with my 4-5/8 Blackhawk, am I dreaming by saying I want to use it for deer hunting this year with the irons? :mrgreen:
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