22/45 internal lock?

View · by **patrick** on Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:28 pm

Do the new 22/45's have an internal lock?I've been thinking about getting one but internal locks turn me off.

View · by **LarryFlew** on Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:31 pm

Specs say it does

View · by **Retread1911** on Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:04 am

Not sure which internal lock you are referring too... The two 22/45 LITE models I own both came with the magazine safety which is easily removed with the use of a 11 dollar bushing.

View · by **GeekyGunman** on Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:17 am

It's a little Allen key bolt that sits just below the manual safety.
When turned so that the screw sticks out inside the frame, it blocks the manual safety from being disabled.

It's just a tiny little hole, you would almost never guess it was a "lock" just from looking at the gun.
They "keys" are pretty funny too, just a hex key mounted on a plastic square.

Most people never have issues/care/notice that it's even there. Have never heard of them engaging accidentally due to recoil.

Oh, and I guess I should add that you can turn the screw out completely with the mainspring assembly out of the gun (like for field stripping).
Doesn't hurt anything, you're just left with a tiny little hole.
The reverse would work too, use threadlocker to keep it fully screwed in.

I've done neither of these things, and in tens of thousands of rounds it's never been an issue.

View · by **XDM45** on Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:49 am

GeekyGunman wrote:It's a little Allen key bolt that sits just below the manual safety.
When turned so that the bolt sticks out inside the frame, it blocks the manual safety from being disabled.

It's just a tiny little hole, you would almost never guess it was a "lock" just from looking at the gun.
They "keys" are pretty funny too, just a hex key mounted on a plastic square.

Most people never have issues/care/notice that it's even there. Have never heard of them engaging accidentally due to recoil.

Oh, and I guess I should add that you can turn the bolt out completely with the mainspring assembly out of the gun (like for field stripping).
Doesn't hurt anything, you're just left with a tiny little hole.
The reverse would work too, use threadlocker to keep it fully screwed in.

I've never done neither of these things, and in tens of thousands of rounds it's never been an issue.

+1. I have a Ruger Mark III 22/45 with this feature and it's never given me a problem and in fact, I like it.

View · by **Angus** on Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:29 pm

never has bothered me either. not a factor for range and plinking. competition shooting maybe. dont over think it its a .22 . i really like mine.

View · by **Ron Burgundy** on Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:27 pm

Buy the 'Sam Lam' bushing for $10 and you're GTG. No more mag safety & mags drop free. I dd it & shot my 22/45 problem free today

View · by **XDM45** on Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:37 am

Ron Burgundy wrote:Buy the 'Sam Lam' bushing for $10 and you're GTG. No more mag safety & mags drop free. I dd it & shot my 22/45 problem free today

Where did you get it and how did you install it?

View · by **Ron Burgundy** on Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:54 pm

Sg552.2@gmail.com <===== his email

He's on ARFCOM if you're looking for references (I'm not on there - took a shot in the dark). LOTS of youtube videos on the install, pretty easy to do.

View · by **GeekyGunman** on Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:53 pm

SAM isn't the only one in the game these days, there is another guy here in the USA that makes the "BAM" bushing. The "TANDEMKROSS" one is also from the USA.
(Confusing right?)
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/sh ... p?t=472711
Pictures and pricing included.

Clark and Volquartsen also make one, but they don't have the step to fit in the hammer notch of the mark III (but still work).

View · by **Collector1337420** on Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:10 pm

Don't bother wasting your money on some bushing.

Just buy a MK2 bushing and an MK2 hammer. Viola! No more magazine disconnect.

I have the Volquartsen kit in my MK3 Competition. Just buy the MK2 kit, and then the MK2 hammer bushing. My MK3 Competition is unbelievable now.

The internal lock crap I've never used. It's never accidentally switched on either. Keep it unlocked and like me, you'll forget you can even do that. I would never hesitate to buy one because of it. Just don't use it.

The mag disconnect is what's annoying, but that can be gotten rid of.

If you don't want to buy the VQ kit, or a MK2 bushing and MK2 hammer, then you have to get Sam's bushing.

View · by **GeekyGunman** on Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:09 pm

Collector1337420 wrote:Don't bother wasting your money on some bushing.

Just buy a MK2 bushing and an MK2 hammer. Viola! No more magazine disconnect.

I have the Volquartsen kit in my MK3 Competition. Just buy the MK2 kit, and then the MK2 hammer bushing. My MK3 Competition is unbelievable now.

The internal lock crap I've never used. It's never accidentally switched on either. Keep it unlocked and like me, you'll forget you can even do that. I would never hesitate to buy one because of it. Just don't use it.

The mag disconnect is what's annoying, but that can be gotten rid of.

If you don't want to buy the VQ kit, or a MK2 bushing and MK2 hammer, then you have to get Sam's bushing.

You have to buy a bushing either way, if you get one of the custom ones, you don't need a new hammer too.
So ~$15 vs ~$50. Which way is the waste again?

View · by **Jackpine Savage** on Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:04 pm

GeekyGunman wrote:SAM isn't the only one in the game these days, there is another guy here in the USA that makes the "BAM" bushing. The "TANDEMKROSS" one is also from the USA.
(Confusing right?)
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/sh ... p?t=472711
Pictures and pricing included.

Clark and Volquartsen also make one, but they don't have the step to fit in the hammer notch of the mark III (but still work).

Thanks for that post. I've been meaning to buy the SAM LAM bushing but never got it done. From the thread you posted it sounds like the other two US bushings have a better fit and finish. TANDEMKROSS is running a $9.95, free shipping deal until midnight tonight. Just got one ordered.

View · by **Collector1337420** on Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:43 pm

GeekyGunman wrote:
Collector1337420 wrote:Don't bother wasting your money on some bushing.

Just buy a MK2 bushing and an MK2 hammer. Viola! No more magazine disconnect.

I have the Volquartsen kit in my MK3 Competition. Just buy the MK2 kit, and then the MK2 hammer bushing. My MK3 Competition is unbelievable now.

The internal lock crap I've never used. It's never accidentally switched on either. Keep it unlocked and like me, you'll forget you can even do that. I would never hesitate to buy one because of it. Just don't use it.

The mag disconnect is what's annoying, but that can be gotten rid of.

If you don't want to buy the VQ kit, or a MK2 bushing and MK2 hammer, then you have to get Sam's bushing.

You have to buy a bushing either way, if you get one of the custom ones, you don't need a new hammer too.
So ~$15 vs ~$50. Which way is the waste again?

Well one is to upgrade and one is just a replacement.

If you're gonna mess with the frame you might as well upgrade while you're in there.