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Re: Re: New purchase. A mans toy!

Postby PHATSPEED7x on Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:03 pm

RJWesleyIII wrote:Just got the barrel back! MR did a beautiful job! I can tell a difference in weight, but also a difference in the cool factor! It looks sweet! The only bad part i guess is the brake is a different color than the gun. You can see it in the pics. They sent it back with some oil on it and I'm curious to what they use. It smelled good, lol!

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Re: New purchase. A mans toy!

Postby Rodentman on Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:17 pm

Looks great! I found my box, too. It was in a tote that I use to store gun boxes...

On mine, this side says "Made in Israel"

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And this side reads "Pillager, MN"

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New purchase. A mans toy!

Postby RJWesleyIII on Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:26 pm

Thanks guys! Im really liking it! Can wait to be able to shoot it! Rodentman- is the finish on your gun a paint or is it blued?


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Re: New purchase. A mans toy!

Postby Seismic Sam on Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:29 pm

Mellonhead wrote:After we prototyped the 10" barrel I talked the big guys into letting me have a scrap barrel, but still able to shoot. The first thing I thought of after shooting this thing is we have to mellow it out if they want to sell it as a hunting option. So I had the boys in the toolroom spin some threads on the end of the barrel while me and my son designed a brake. After a couple hours on the lathe and mill we had a brake. I wanted to try it out in aluminum because this thing is heavy enough as it is, besides much easier to machine. A sales dude owed me a favor so he had it hard anodized non-grata. After a couple magazines through the barrel the brake came loose, I think the stretched the threads out. I was going to go back into work to make a locking nut, but I looked down at the bench and saw a AR front sight that looked like it would fit the barrel. Put the damn thing on and it worked perfect. Now it is a big joke around work, but works good-remember I am trying to control recoil not accuracy. Started working on a rear sight to match the front, but it means taking the rear sight off-(no way!). I have made a locking nut in the mean time and will do some testing when the snow finally melts. If anyone is looking for a muzzle brake upgrade for a 10", PM me and we will get you a shooter. I would never dis the IMI because they made an awesome weapon, but i really believe we have improved it quite a bit. Unless it says Pillager MN. and has a full picatinny on top it is probably Israel made.


BTW, Mellonhead, I'm not sure if we have met or not. (Besides me being the 800 lb. reloading troll around here) I got a DE quite a long time ago, and have shot the snot out of it, and the first year I had it I went out and shot it every week at Oakdale, and would go through 100 rounds of ammo 1 handed with every session. The best I ever managed to get up to was a score of 93 on a standard NRA Rapid/Timed fire 25 yard target, shot at 25 yards more or less rapid fire, meaning I had no timer, but it was damn close to 10 seconds per 5 shots.

IF we have met, I was one of the very few reloading weirdos who ordered one of the .440 CorBon magnum 6" barrels, and I had to wait FOREVER for it, like at least 6 months because MR was "in between batches". When I finally got it I shot a round, and the gun locked up solid. Turned out the gun had come as part of the batch from the rough machining process to turn a 44 mag barrel into a .440, and had never gone through the chamber finishing process at all. I was royally pissed beyond belief after waiting this long, and wound up on MR's doorstep up there off of 694, and they checked it out, and sure enough it was never finished. The resident gun guru tried to polish the chamber, but couldn't get it right and I had to come back again the next day to pick up the barrel. So do you have a vague memory of 6'3" 240 pound royally pissed off customer with a 440 Corbon barrel??

BTW, the 440 was quite interesting, and the only problem was that with H110 you couldn't duplicate the factory 240 grain 1600 FPS loads, and the recommendation I got from MR to try using AA#7 powder did work, but that load was incredibly touchy, and you couldn't get the pressure to come back down quick enough to prevent extraction problems. In the last year or two I revisited reloading that caliber, and finally got something to work very nicely. Care to guess the powder??


Would you beleive Lil' Gun?? Works life an effen champ.

BTW - I am also the person who has an original Tromix Sledgehammer in 50AE to go with my DE, so I have a 50 caliber rifle-pistol combination. Both eat the exact same ammo. The Tromix puts the 325 out the barrel at 1800 FPS with the same 32.5 grains of H110 you use in the pistol.

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Re: New purchase. A mans toy!

Postby greenfarmer on Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:41 pm

RJWesleyIII wrote:Just got the barrel back! MR did a beautiful job! I can tell a difference in weight, but also a difference in the cool factor! It looks sweet! The only bad part i guess is the brake is a different color than the gun. You can see it in the pics. They sent it back with some oil on it and I'm curious to what they use. It smelled good, lol!

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Looks Good.... Smells Good... And gonna shoot good! :D

Sorry i talked you into spending your money! ;) I promise i'll try my hardest not to do that ever again! :lol:

I've only had mine for a little over a week, and i think it's about 240 sent down the pipe now! which is over $300. But man is it awesome! Sure makes a thump! My little SR22 is way cheaper to shoot, but not near the rush!
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Re: New purchase. A mans toy!

Postby Rodentman on Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:40 pm

RJWesleyIII wrote:Thanks guys! Im really liking it! Can wait to be able to shoot it! Rodentman- is the finish on your gun a paint or is it blued?


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Frankly I don't know what it is. The paperwork I have says it is a "smooth black durable finish." It is not blued, but I don't know if it is really painted either.
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New purchase. A mans toy!

Postby RJWesleyIII on Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:09 pm

No worries greenfarmer. If I didn't spend it on the .50, I would have spent it on another gun. Lol.

Rodentman- I know what you mean. My gun is blued, and the brake is black. Might be some kind of duracoat or something. I'm not gonna sweat it. It looks good! :)

Now, what gun project is next...


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Re: New purchase. A mans toy!

Postby PHATSPEED7x on Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:59 pm

Here is what it says on the sides of my Mark VII

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Also note my low 5 digit serial number...
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Re: New purchase. A mans toy!

Postby Mellonhead on Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:07 pm

Seismic Sam wrote:
BTW, Mellonhead, I'm not sure if we have met or not. (Besides me being the 800 lb. reloading troll around here) I got a DE quite a long time ago, and have shot the snot out of it, and the first year I had it I went out and shot it every week at Oakdale, and would go through 100 rounds of ammo 1 handed with every session. The best I ever managed to get up to was a score of 93 on a standard NRA Rapid/Timed fire 25 yard target, shot at 25 yards more or less rapid fire, meaning I had no timer, but it was damn close to 10 seconds per 5 shots.

IF we have met, I was one of the very few reloading weirdos who ordered one of the .440 CorBon magnum 6" barrels, and I had to wait FOREVER for it, like at least 6 months because MR was "in between batches". When I finally got it I shot a round, and the gun locked up solid. Turned out the gun had come as part of the batch from the rough machining process to turn a 44 mag barrel into a .440, and had never gone through the chamber finishing process at all. I was royally pissed beyond belief after waiting this long, and wound up on MR's doorstep up there off of 694, and they checked it out, and sure enough it was never finished. The resident gun guru tried to polish the chamber, but couldn't get it right and I had to come back again the next day to pick up the barrel. So do you have a vague memory of 6'3" 240 pound royally pissed off customer with a 440 Corbon barrel??

BTW, the 440 was quite interesting, and the only problem was that with H110 you couldn't duplicate the factory 240 grain 1600 FPS loads, and the recommendation I got from MR to try using AA#7 powder did work, but that load was incredibly touchy, and you couldn't get the pressure to come back down quick enough to prevent extraction problems. In the last year or two I revisited reloading that caliber, and finally got something to work very nicely. Care to guess the powder??


Would you beleive Lil' Gun?? Works life an effen champ.

BTW - I am also the person who has an original Tromix Sledgehammer in 50AE to go with my DE, so I have a 50 caliber rifle-pistol combination. Both eat the exact same ammo. The Tromix puts the 325 out the barrel at 1800 FPS with the same 32.5 grains of H110 you use in the pistol.

Best regards,

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For some reason I think if I ever met you I would remember you. I do not work for Magnum directly but with a contract manufacturer that produces all the D.E parts. The .440 cor-bon days were before me and were all Israeli. I have heard a lot of stories about the lack of quality control back then and believe it or not your story is not uncommon. They have cleaned up their act quite a bit since the IMI days, I think mostly because they can actually speak with the supplier now. I snagged another scrap barrel in .44 mag with the hope of chambering it in .440 Cor-bon. Never shot one with that chambering but think that would be a great hunting caliber.After talking to Pacific Gage it will be quite awhile before I get a chance to do this. Thanks for the tip on the Lil' Gun, don't think I ever would have thought to put those 2 together, although sounds like these dies are even harder to get than the .50 AE. That is awesome you actually have a sledgehammer in .50 AE, it's hard to believe you can get that much velocity out of it-maybe I should work on a 16" barrel for the DE. Thanks for replying, it was a pleasure reading your post. I have to admit when I joined this forum I thought I would come in and teach everyone something, instead I was very humbled by how little I actually know. I have learned that when I breeze through a post I stop and read certain peoples replies a little more carefully (such as you,XD ed, sawgrass,Pat Cannon, JJ, Ect.) Sorry for gushing, Thanks everyone.
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Re: New purchase. A mans toy!

Postby greenfarmer on Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:28 am

Gosh, you hit the nail on the head with this one! There are so many guys on here that i've read posts from that some of it just goes right over my head. But they have way more years of experience in things. Reloading is one of the big things i've always thought would be fun, relaxing, awesome to learn, and make shooting way cheaper. And there's so many guys on here that if i ever did decide to try reloading, that i know i could get better than excellent advice on it. They have reloaded, tried and experimented with it, so they can put you on the right track. It's nice to come on here and see posts from people who actually work in the gun industry! Who work on our toys, who have the experience to tell you which way to go, what they have tried, what works, what doesn't work. So we don't make the same mistakes they have in the past with things, or make a mistake that they know from experience would be a mistake. There's an awful lot of knowledge here! And thanks everyone for sharing it!
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Re: New purchase. A mans toy!

Postby Seismic Sam on Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:49 pm

It's odd that it would be hard to get 50AE dies. It's not a common caliber at all, and at retail prices it sure will discourage the hoarders at NORMAL price. The 440 CorBon is VERY uncommon, and since it died relatively quickly on the vine, I'd check to see if there's a leftover set gathering dust at RCBS. You don't need the incredibly rare form die, which was $250 for one die when it was SUPPOSEDLY available, and I can show you how to use 45 ACP dies to form the bottleneck in three steps.
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