Use what works

[Pinnacle]

God some of you really need to get out more!

This is from Gabe Saurez no truer words have been spoken! How many of you fit this?

Today the percentage of people wanting to do that is small. The percentage of dudes who want to put on the shaolin nice uniform and do a nice ballet-like kata is much higher. Same goes for the guys who show up to the range in their pressed inspection-ready 5.11 tuxedo with the latest magazine-approved holster, bitchin guy gun, etc., and stands there shooting groups. I could make twice as much money catering to those guys and never use an airsoft again. Just spend my time validating guys and making them feel good about themselves like some kool-aid cult leader.

Guys like that don't want to fight, or train to fight. And if a thug walked up to them on the street....a real thug, not the nemesis of their delusional day dream imaginations, they would not know what to do. Deep down they may know it, but don't dare admit it to themselves.

So as to hte question about the effectiveness of traditional martial arts today...it depends. It depends on you and what your focus is, as well as who you are learning from and what their focus is.

__________________
Gabe Suarez

Nothing more than acknowledging another guru......... Like Copper...

Quoting Suaez is as good as quoting John Wayne as far as I am concerned.... Any time you want a shot at the title pal.... Let me know. just bring your wallet....

I will show you just how incompetent you are.... Don't write checks your ass cant cash.

[Flip]

ET,

Do you know what it is to earn a black belt? Your talk says you don't ... it says you're simply trolling.

I do. I spent time doing kata & holding positions that you'd give up in a less than a minute. I spent years learning about pain, how to overcome it, and about never giving in. Quote all you want but you're no black belt. Perhaps I'm not a shooter in your book but I've spent more time training for that moment than you ever will - just not with a gun in my hand. I spend time at the range but that's not the only time I've spent preparing.

Flip

[Widge]

God some of you really need to get out more!

This is from Gabe Saurez no truer words have been spoken! How many of you fit this?

Today the percentage of people wanting to do that is small. The percentage of dudes who want to put on the shaolin nice uniform and do a nice ballet-like kata is much higher. Same goes for the guys who show up to the range in their pressed inspection-ready 5.11 tuxedo with the latest magazine-approved holster, bitchin guy gun, etc., and stands there shooting groups. I could make twice as much money catering to those guys and never use an airsoft again. Just spend my time validating guys and making them feel good about themselves like some kool-aid cult leader.

Guys like that don't want to fight, or train to fight. And if a thug walked up to them on the street....a real thug, not the nemesis of their delusional day dream imaginations, they would not know what to do. Deep down they may know it, but don't dare admit it to themselves.

So as to hte question about the effectiveness of traditional martial arts today...it depends. It depends on you and what your focus is, as well as who you are learning from and what their focus is.

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Gabe Suarez

Hahahaha!

So you are equating your skils and motivations to those of MR. Suarez? How many thugs you have ever dealt with Mr Kung Fu fighter? Other than on your PS2 I mean. It ain't GTA3 out in the real world, and neither is it Fallujah or Helmland unless you're in Iraq or some other 'Stan. I just love all these 'Warriors' who make a living telling everyone how crap they are and how their system will make them a 'real' operator.

Mr. Suarez has a great reputation, but how that relates to your pontificating jibber-jabber and qualifications to decide who on here is a 'shooter' (Gawd help us all) or simply a sunday morning plinker eludes me.


I'm no Mr. Suarez, but I'm out on the street 40+ hours a week hoping I'll won't have to shoot (but expecting that I very well may have to) some drunken fool, EDP, or hopped up bad guy, but confident that if I do, I've trained enough to give myself a better than even chance of prevailing.

How about you?

[gman1868]

We don't have no time fo Jibba-Jabba

[lenny7]

I really don't know why anyone even bothers replying. Clearly he knows everything and by arguing with him, you're just making a sport of it for him.

[Belgiboy]

Just to let you know... I have known ET for about two years now. He reached out to someone (me) who was obviously a noob, burned a lot of gas dragging me to various ranges all over the metro area and took it upon him to teach me as much as he could. He has never asked anything in return. We shoot (rifle and pistol) together on a regular basis. I can honestly say that I am a much better shooter because of what he has showed me. He got me into reloading, helped me put together my AR15, gets me deals on brass and bullets....
He is actually one of the most generous people I know.
I know he is opinionated (a bit of an understatement here) and likes to stir things up and it's just that what he did over here. You people have every right to react to that, I quite understand. I wouldn't know if he's the best shot on the forum here, I don't know a lot of people here but ET is very, very good.
And he doesn't live with his mommy

[Stradawhovious]

Beligboy.... I'm glad that you have had positive experiences with ET in the past, but please understand our frustration. Beacuse a person may be have done a decent and helpful thing in the past as you are stating ET has done for you, does not make up for his egomaniacal rantings, abusive self serving private messages and overall bullyish behaviour. ET has never met the vast majority of us, yet continues to downplay the importance and quality of the instructors and mentors on this board. One good deed does not a good person make, and after viewing his attitude and behavior on the board, I don't trust ET with a firearm, and you can rest assured he won't make it to my christmas card list.

I'm glad that he has helped you, as everyone needs a mentor, just remember he is not the "last word" on all things firearm as he would like the rest of us to believe. There is an unbelievable wealth of knowledge on this board, please use it to it's fullest potential.

[Spearhead]

Are we witnessing the re-birth of Gecko45??

[Pezhead]

Everyone has to start somewhere at different skill levels. Get as much training as you can. Try different training methods. What works for one doesn't always work for another. Keep an open mind. Be willing & patient helping those that need help.

[Belgiboy]

LOL.

No, it's not the rebirth of Gecko45. I was merely providing a different angle to the character of ET. Like I said before, I know him and yes, I can see the frustration. Socials skills are not his strongpoint, something he readily admits himself.
Thanks for the kind words, Strad. I know very well that there simply is no final truth when it comes to all that is shooting.
I am, and will always be, a huge 1911-fan and no one will ever change that.
People are simply not black and white, that was the only point I wanted to make.

[Duane J]

LOL.

No, it's not the rebirth of Gecko45. I was merely providing a different angle to the character of ET. Like I said before, I know him and yes, I can see the frustration. Socials skills are not his strongpoint, something he readily admits himself.
Thanks for the kind words, Strad. I know very well that there simply is no final truth when it comes to all that is shooting.
I am, and will always be, a huge 1911-fan and no one will ever change that.
People are simply not black and white, that was the only point I wanted to make.

It's often easy to get a snap shot of one's character by taking a glance at their friends. Just a thought....

And about your friend. He's taken it upon himself to come around here and berate the skills of an entire community. He has PM'd, to further attempt to boast his skills, a veteran of the Marine Corps who has actually trained for and lived through combat... on more that one occasion.

Que your buddy up and let him know if he wants to go toe to toe about the skills of this community, he should do some fact checking first. I've offered him the address to my home in the event that he'd like to come by for a cup of joe or beer and get his sh** straight. Make zero mistake, not only is ET a complete infant, he has no place under any circumstances teaching anyone ANYTHING about firearms. It's not all about hitting a target. We could probably teach a chimp to do that.....

Training is a conglomerate comprised of many things. Marksmanship is but a small piece of the pie. Many here have chosen to be kind to you, and to ET. I find neither deserving. When you realize your buddy is an a** hat, post up here for some training, I'm sure more than one VERY qualified instructor would be happy to help you break the bad habits the chimp has taught you.

[westberg]

LOL.

No, it's not the rebirth of Gecko45. I was merely providing a different angle to the character of ET. Like I said before, I know him and yes, I can see the frustration. Socials skills are not his strongpoint, something he readily admits himself.
Thanks for the kind words, Strad. I know very well that there simply is no final truth when it comes to all that is shooting.
I am, and will always be, a huge 1911-fan and no one will ever change that.
People are simply not black and white, that was the only point I wanted to make.

Belgiboy thank you for some insight, I have no doubt everything you say about ET is accurate. Now if ET could understand that people come to the forums for knowledge, idea's on training and entertainment and not be belittled by someone coming across as a know it all and call us wannabes and noob's. He at some point in his life would have fallen into those definitions. He supports a training organization that is somewhat controversial in this gun community and I'm still not sure about why that is, but the way he presents it as the only training that will do you any good rub's people the wrong way. I have trained with them and think their training is top notch and plan on doing more, but don't feel they are the only option available. I do hope ET can find a way to tone it down and share his knowledge in a more palatable way. If I have been too sensitive to the noob and wannabe comments and missed the point of the post I apologize and invite ET to share his knowledge.

[Keith]

I guess that all of the years of hard work that I have put in and training and shooting a 100% on the NY DOJS Qualification doesn't mean that I am a shooter.

This is a sad day.

I know your a better shooter then me, so if you want you can be a member of the unholstered.com mediocre shooting team.

I thought we were the half-bad shooting team?

There already is a team that calls themselves the Half Fast Shooters. (say it fast)
They even have it printed on their shirts so there's no mistaking.

[JoeH]

There already is a team that calls themselves the Half Fast Shooters. (say it fast)
They even have it printed on their shirts so there's no mistaking.

I'm always late to the party.

[Belgiboy]

LOL.

No, it's not the rebirth of Gecko45. I was merely providing a different angle to the character of ET. Like I said before, I know him and yes, I can see the frustration. Socials skills are not his strongpoint, something he readily admits himself.
Thanks for the kind words, Strad. I know very well that there simply is no final truth when it comes to all that is shooting.
I am, and will always be, a huge 1911-fan and no one will ever change that.
People are simply not black and white, that was the only point I wanted to make.

It's often easy to get a snap shot of one's character by taking a glance at their friends. Just a thought....

And about your friend. He's taken it upon himself to come around here and berate the skills of an entire community. He has PM'd, to further attempt to boast his skills, a veteran of the Marine Corps who has actually trained for and lived through combat... on more that one occasion.

Que your buddy up and let him know if he wants to go toe to toe about the skills of this community, he should do some fact checking first. I've offered him the address to my home in the event that he'd like to come by for a cup of joe or beer and get his sh** straight. Make zero mistake, not only is ET a complete infant, he has no place under any circumstances teaching anyone ANYTHING about firearms. It's not all about hitting a target. We could probably teach a chimp to do that.....

Training is a conglomerate comprised of many things. Marksmanship is but a small piece of the pie. Many here have chosen to be kind to you, and to ET. I find neither deserving. When you realize your buddy is an a** hat, post up here for some training, I'm sure more than one VERY qualified instructor would be happy to help you break the bad habits the chimp has taught you.

Hmmm, repeatedly now I have aknowledged that there is a legitimate reason to be frustrated with ET and the way he conducts himself on this forum. I have never berated anybody's skills, much less a Marine Vet. Please explain why I would not be deserving of any kindness, as you suggest. What you say about judging people by taking a glance at their friends borders on ignorance. You have the right to be angry at ET, I am my own person however and you should respect that. I'll keep your suggestion about qualified trainers in this forum in mind for when I feel I need it.