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Re: Bad day at the range yesterday!

Postby FJ540 on Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:59 pm

If we can get the barrel out without harming the slide, it's just going to be the cost of the barrel to fix it. Not the end of the world. ;)
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Postby rottenit on Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:21 pm

So an update. Sent the photo's to STI they quoted a repair including a new barrel and slide re-fit and re chroming the barrel. The ammo mfr said to send it in to STI.
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Re: Bad day at the range yesterday!

Postby FJ540 on Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:23 pm

On them, or on your dime?
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Re: Bad day at the range yesterday!

Postby rottenit on Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:01 pm

FJ540 wrote:On them, or on your dime?


That part is unclear at this time.
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Re: Bad day at the range yesterday!

Postby rottenit on Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:40 am

Ammo company contacted me....

They will pay for the repairs to the firearm as long as I am willing to sign a "release" that binds me to not discuss it and i'm not 100 percent sure if it binds me to future incidents revolving the company the language is pretty lawyer-ese.

After the discussion I had they are calling it a "case failure".
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Re: Bad day at the range yesterday!

Postby andrewP on Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:42 am

rottenit wrote:Ammo company contacted me....

They will pay for the repairs to the firearm as long as I am willing to sign a "release" that binds me to not discuss it and i'm not 100 percent sure if it binds me to future incidents revolving the company the language is pretty lawyer-ese.

After the discussion I had they are calling it a "case failure".


Are they aware that you've already been discussing it here? Do they just want you to withhold their name or something? I mean, on some level, you might as well let them pay to fix your gun, but it'd also be good to know for sure what you're agreeing to.
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Re: Bad day at the range yesterday!

Postby yuppiejr on Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:25 pm

andrewP wrote:
rottenit wrote:Ammo company contacted me....

They will pay for the repairs to the firearm as long as I am willing to sign a "release" that binds me to not discuss it and i'm not 100 percent sure if it binds me to future incidents revolving the company the language is pretty lawyer-ese.

After the discussion I had they are calling it a "case failure".


Are they aware that you've already been discussing it here? Do they just want you to withhold their name or something? I mean, on some level, you might as well let them pay to fix your gun, but it'd also be good to know for sure what you're agreeing to.


I don't see a manufacturer identified in this thread, which is probably good given the settlement option he's been offered. If no personal injury or loss occurred beyond the pistol which is being repaired by the manufacturer at no cost per the terms of the agreement, and he doesn't plan to shoot any more of their reloads, it seems pretty open-shut-done to me. I know someone who had a Winchester model 70 damaged by Winchester ammunition and it took months of calling/nagging and 3 trips to gunsmiths to get even partial restitution (no settlement terms though)... and I've seen companies like USA Ammo that simply shuttered and rebranded as Freedom Munitions after blowing up a few guns with hot .223 reloads.

It can go a lot of different ways, this seems like a reasonable offer given all of the circumstances, particularly the fact that this is a used pistol with a few prior owners. In the end he gets a brand new barrel & refit by the manufacturer... I might also inquire about replacing the glasses if they were a decent set of shades/prescription sunglasses.
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Re: Bad day at the range yesterday!

Postby rottenit on Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:57 am

andrewP wrote:
rottenit wrote:Ammo company contacted me....

They will pay for the repairs to the firearm as long as I am willing to sign a "release" that binds me to not discuss it and i'm not 100 percent sure if it binds me to future incidents revolving the company the language is pretty lawyer-ese.

After the discussion I had they are calling it a "case failure".


Are they aware that you've already been discussing it here? Do they just want you to withhold their name or something? I mean, on some level, you might as well let them pay to fix your gun, but it'd also be good to know for sure what you're agreeing to.


I told them that there were posts on 2 forums and I withheld the name of the MFR.
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Re: Bad day at the range yesterday!

Postby rottenit on Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:58 am

yuppiejr wrote:
andrewP wrote:
rottenit wrote:Ammo company contacted me....

They will pay for the repairs to the firearm as long as I am willing to sign a "release" that binds me to not discuss it and i'm not 100 percent sure if it binds me to future incidents revolving the company the language is pretty lawyer-ese.

After the discussion I had they are calling it a "case failure".


Are they aware that you've already been discussing it here? Do they just want you to withhold their name or something? I mean, on some level, you might as well let them pay to fix your gun, but it'd also be good to know for sure what you're agreeing to.


I don't see a manufacturer identified in this thread, which is probably good given the settlement option he's been offered. If no personal injury or loss occurred beyond the pistol which is being repaired by the manufacturer at no cost per the terms of the agreement, and he doesn't plan to shoot any more of their reloads, it seems pretty open-shut-done to me. I know someone who had a Winchester model 70 damaged by Winchester ammunition and it took months of calling/nagging and 3 trips to gunsmiths to get even partial restitution (no settlement terms though)... and I've seen companies like USA Ammo that simply shuttered and rebranded as Freedom Munitions after blowing up a few guns with hot .223 reloads.

It can go a lot of different ways, this seems like a reasonable offer given all of the circumstances, particularly the fact that this is a used pistol with a few prior owners. In the end he gets a brand new barrel & refit by the manufacturer... I might also inquire about replacing the glasses if they were a decent set of shades/prescription sunglasses.


They were the free ones I got after lasik.. So that's not an issue! I forgot my normal ones in my other range bag that day.
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Re: Bad day at the range yesterday!

Postby rottenit on Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:00 am

So in an unexpected twist STI repaired the gun under warrantee, which is odd when I called them they said it wouldn't be covered under warrantee. The paperwork from them says that it was bad ammo. I don't really think its far that they ate this...
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Re: Bad day at the range yesterday!

Postby FJ540 on Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:14 am

STI's good people!
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Re: Bad day at the range yesterday!

Postby OldmanFCSA on Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:27 pm

Now shoot some good quality reloads thru it and be safer overall.

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Postby rottenit on Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:57 pm

I know, I'm not setup for .40 yet....
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