Revolver for my wife

[farmerj]

I'll ask this....

Would you let her go pick out a tool set for you? Or a chainsaw?


Guide the spouse, but ultimately, it's THEIR decision. Heck, you pick up a box of ammo, I'll let her shoot our revolvers is she wants. One's a 2", the other a 3". As to terminal performance, Rule of 3's here. 3 feet, 3 shots, 3 seconds. Incident is over. If it's a bedroom gun, range of what, 2-3 yards or LESS.

Want to convince her at that range a semi is better than a revolver, hold a hotdog next to a cylinder at the front when you fire it. Because at close quarters, SOMEONE's skin is going to be next to that spot. It's likely to be a belly shot or an indexed. And you DON'T want a revolver next to you when that happens.

[Ron Burgundy]

One of you science nerds, what level of strength is required to rack a slide vs work DA of most revolvers?

My money is that if there were an apples-to-apples comparison, racking a slide would be easier.


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[farmerj]

technique and training....

But handgrip plays a large part of it. My wife just was never able to find a small auto she could rack. No matter how many different people showed her different tricks.

[Seismic Sam]

I think pulling the trigger is significantly easier than racking the slide. There are exceptions, like a Glock with a NY trigger, but all in all even a stiff DA action isn't going to be more than 7 - 8 pounds, while a slide can be 15 pounds and up. Plus if you don't rack the slide far enough, you wind up a jam or FTFeed, which could be a lethal mistake. In general, carrying an auto without a round in the chamber is simply asking for trouble, and if you go through a full mag the slide will be open when you run dry. As such, I think the trigger pull force and the slide pull force is sort of an apples to baseballs comparison.

[Ghost]

[MXGreg]

If this is going to be a bed side gun, think about the position you'll be in when using it. You'll be laying down, under the covers, possibly with your spouse laying on one of your arms. Which gun will you be able to grab and fire faster?

[farmerj]

If this is going to be a bed side gun, think about the position you'll be in when using it. You'll be laying down, under the covers, possibly with your spouse laying on one of your arms. Which gun will you be able to grab and fire faster?

grab the gun and pull the trigger. The pistol would require manipulating a safety (most likely). A revolver, point and shoot.


Another thought.

If she's struggling with racking a slide, can she even pull the trigger double action only?

[yuppiejr]

One of you science nerds, what level of strength is required to rack a slide vs work DA of most revolvers?

My money is that if there were an apples-to-apples comparison, racking a slide would be easier.

Keep in mind that racking a slide requires two hands utilizing one to both grip/pinch the slide while also overcoming the operating spring tension to pull it fully rearward while bracing or pushing the frame with the other. It's a much more complex physical action than thumbing the hammer of a revolver or squeezing a DA trigger rearward with the index finger.

I prefer DA/SA semi-automatics in the CZ-75 compact series for my own use but have owned a variety of Ruger + S&W revolvers as well. My wife has always been able to operate a DA trigger while minimizing "dot dance" on a dry fire target with a cartridge style laser boresighter installed for practice, yet she struggles with the slides on most semi-autos I've introduced her to. If I had to pick a single firearm to keep in the house for my wife's use when I'm not around it would be a double action revolver, not a pump shotgun, semi-automatic handgun or rifle. It's among the simplest and most reliable types of firearms you can operate, a huge plus for someone with minimal training in a stressful situation.

[Bessy]

IMHO the LCR is probably the WORST choice for shooter that is recoil adverse, lacks grip strength, or wants to have a pleasant time at the range.

Short sight radius, long double action trigger, and jaring recoil doesn't equal a fun afternoon at the range. I carry a small j-frame, and it's quite punishing to shoot, especially with 38 P+ ammo. Small revo's are TOUGH to shoot well. This is coming from a guy who does quite a bit of action pistol shooting.
For carry, sure a small revolver makes sense... but for a bedroom gun, where weight is less of an issue, get something heavier with a longer sight radius. It will make range time much more enjoyable.

YMMV

~Greg.

[yukonjasper]

IMHO the LCR is probably the WORST choice for shooter that is recoil adverse, lacks grip strength, or wants to have a pleasant time at the range.

Short sight radius, long double action trigger, and jaring recoil doesn't equal a fun afternoon at the range. I carry a small j-frame, and it's quite punishing to shoot, especially with 38 P+ ammo. Small revo's are TOUGH to shoot well. This is coming from a guy who does quite a bit of action pistol shooting.
For carry, sure a small revolver makes sense... but for a bedroom gun, where weight is less of an issue, get something heavier with a longer sight radius. It will make range time much more enjoyable.

YMMV

~Greg.

+1
if its a bedroom gun, why not a short barrel shotgun or a Double barrel? Agree that carring is a different story, but if you are just pulling it from the side of the bed or closet and firing, having something easy to point and steady in hand will be more effective than something small. especially with the clumsiness that comes with hyper adreneline rush of that sort of situation - you don't need anymore things to remember than is absolutly necessary. Point and shoot........9mm shot vs. the spread of a 3" High base 6 shot 12 guage round - which has the higher probablilty of a hit ..............my $.02

[farmerj]

the Taurus and the EAA all come with 4" barrels.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/defa ... can+Armory

Wife really likes that even over any of the 2" revolvers...


http://www.taurususa.com/product-detail ... series=MF2

[Kelor]

If I'm not too late, you should go to Bill's and rent some revolvers to see what she really likes. Women think differently than men, and what might be no big deal to you could be a game stopper for her. My general challenge to any guy buying a gun for his wife is to go to a place like DSW shoes, walk up and down the rows of shoes, and pick out the EXACT pair of shoes she is going to buy. I have an open offer of a $100 bet you can't do this, and you know you have no chance to make the right pick. Why are guns different than shoes, just because you have lots of gun experience??

This let her pick out what she wants.

I honestly have tried this before, but I don't think it would get done until summer. Maybe I should wait, but there might not be anything wrong with guessing wrong today, and buying something else in the summer.

As far as strength, she's plenty strong. She works out obsessively. She just still is queasy about the semi auto. She can rack the P22, but doesn't even like to do that. (My fault that I usually do it for her. I want her to have a good time shooting.)

She definitely understands the importance. One of my best friends was shot and killed while buying a valentines gift for his wife in Utah a few years back. He would be alive and well today if he had been carrying.

[Bessy]

the Taurus and the EAA all come with 4" barrels.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/defa ... can+Armory

Wife really likes that even over any of the 2" revolvers...


http://www.taurususa.com/product-detail ... series=MF2

After tearing apart both taurus and S&W revo's side by side... I'd never buy another taurus. The taurus FCG made me scratch my head going WTF did you do it that way... I can only assume it was so S&W didn't sue them.

For me it's ruger or s&w all the way. I would still love to get my hands on one of the EAA imported revois and tear them down. I've also heard good thing about the new charter arms gun, I'd love to rip one of those guys apart

[tullibee]

this far into the second page and nobody has done the

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[Snakeman721]

Most, if not all revolvers that shoot 9mm will have to use moon clips. The ones that don't, have problems with case extraction.....mainly, it is slow and cumbersome to remove the cases when the built in extactor can't grab the case rims.

Moon clips are not required on the LCR. Moon clips will make it faster to reload. It depends on how many reloads a person carries. You can have the initial rounds in a moon clip and eject them easily then reload with a speed strip or another moon clip. By the time you reach the third reload you should have been on your way out or at least finding cover.

That's why I said "most". Yes, the LCR can chamber a 9mm round without moon clips because the cylinder has shoulders milled in each chamber to stop the 9mm round at the case mouth. The problem comes from extraction. The extractor can not catch the rim to pull out the cases. I saw this first hand at the range with someone that has a LCR in 9mm. He was pushing the empties out with a pencil (that weren't in moon clips).