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My DE jams!

Postby tommy25000 on Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:53 pm

this has been an issue since new, I have an old video of my girl friend shooting it and it jamed. this will provide a crystal clear description.
FYI this was in colorado at my Grandfathers property. Just so we are all clear I have only put about 100 rounds through the gun, this has happened twice. Seems like alot.

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Re: My DE jams!

Postby plblark on Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:14 pm

diagnosis: Limp wristing caused jam

Comment: You really need to work on fundamentals of grip. She's shooting right handed but her left thumb is across the back strap. That's a recipe for blood or a broken thumb. The off hand thumb should stay on its own side of the gun. She needs to seat the grip lower in her hand (choke up on it) to get the bore more in liner with her arm and get more hand surface in control of the gun.
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Re: My DE jams!

Postby Paul on Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:32 pm

plblark is completely right... I would also add that with only 100 rounds through the gun, it may not be broken in fully. Two rounds out of 100 during a break in period is not unheard of, or worth concerning yourself at this point.

Not to ask the obvious/insulting... But has the gun been thoroughly cleaned/lubed since new and during this period? This could also easily cause jamming issues.
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Re: My DE jams!

Postby plblark on Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:37 pm

The DE are a nice gun but slightly more complex than a standard Semi Auto due to its design. maintenance and cleaning are essential. I wouldn't consider a gun broken in in under 500 rounds anyway.
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Re: My DE jams!

Postby cobb on Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:37 pm

Looks like some basics might help. I have seen several times where a person's handgun jams for one person and not another, all to do with shooting technique.
The placement of her weak hand thumb is a bad situation. You can get away with it on the big semi auto's, but on a smaller one, well I know of one person that got their thumb nail repositioned from flush to the skin to a 45 degree angle away from the thumb skin.

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Re: My DE jams!

Postby ComradeBurg on Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:04 pm

I know my Desert Eagle will jam up if not held very securely. If there is too much give the gun isn't able to cycle properly and you get jamming issues. The gun should have come with an instruction manual that explained how to properly hold the gun. You have to have your dominate hand push forward against the gun while the non-dominant hand pulls back. This gives a good strong grip on the gun and doesn't allow it to kick back as much when it fires.

Also I will ask if you cleaned it between the time you obtained it and now. Once again the Desert Eagle is finicky as far as being clean. You need to clean it, especially when you first get it to remove the packing grease and oil.
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Re: My DE jams!

Postby tommy25000 on Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:33 pm

I did clean it... All very very good feed back. I am getting my self more and more into guns with little prior experience other than shot guns. My family was never into them when I was younger. I apreciate the feedback.
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Re: My DE jams!

Postby Pinnacle on Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:55 am

You have to shoot FULL POWER loads with the DE and NO Cast Bullets whatsoever.

This is an issue of grip strength and fundamentals. You have to hang on to that gun.
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Re: My DE jams!

Postby tommy25000 on Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:08 am

Pinnacle wrote:You have to shoot FULL POWER loads with the DE and NO Cast Bullets whatsoever.

This is an issue of grip strength and fundamentals. You have to hang on to that gun.



what is an example of the brand and model bullet I should use?
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Re: My DE jams!

Postby EAJuggalo on Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:12 am

Speer Gold Dot is what comes to mind. $42/20 at Gunstop as of Saturday. I remember when .50AE was cheap, only $20/20 about 5 years ago.
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Re: My DE jams!

Postby macphisto on Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:34 am

EAJuggalo wrote:Speer Gold Dot is what comes to mind. $42/20 at Gunstop as of Saturday. I remember when .50AE was cheap, only $20/20 about 5 years ago.

There's no way that's a .50AE.
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Re: My DE jams!

Postby Stradawhovious on Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:36 am

I'd even be surprised if it's the .44

Doesn't DE make a .357?
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Re: My DE jams!

Postby ex-LT on Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:59 am

Stradawhovious wrote:I'd even be surprised if it's the .44

Doesn't DE make a .357?

Yes, they do. IIRC, the original DE was a .357.
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Re: My DE jams!

Postby Paul on Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:03 pm

The venerable Desert Eagle in .357
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Re: My DE jams!

Postby tommy25000 on Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:39 pm

Sorry I shoulkd have said that, It is a .357 DE
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