Favorite Non-1911 Carry in 45?

[David]

Yeah, the Glock has the disadvantage of a single action with none of the advantages. As far as your finger is concerned, it's a single action, but it doesn't have the nice, tight pull of a single action. That doesn't bother me, and I carry and compete with one, but it's definitely a hybrid in terms of its internal operation.

The "Safe-Action" of the Glock really just prevents the gun from going off unless the trigger is pulled. You can drop it or do anything else to it and it won't fire because the striker isn't completely cocked until the trigger is pulled that last little bit.

Fortunately, "second strike" capability isn't really part of anyone's competitive or defensive regimen. How many schools suggest a second pull on the trigger if the first one doesn't do its thing? I wouldn't even consider it. If the gun doesn't fire when I pull the trigger, an immediate tap-rack is what I do. Wasting time pulling the trigger again is just a way to get your times further up there. And, the trigger on the Glock, even though it doesn't feel like a single action, has a pretty short reset and can be made light enough. Works for me!

[Spearhead]

Never any love for Ruger

I carry a P345 and it too goes bang every time I pull the trigger

[Ironbear]

Fortunately, "second strike" capability isn't really part of anyone's competitive or defensive regimen. How many schools suggest a second pull on the trigger if the first one doesn't do its thing?

I call BS on this! A second pull on the trigger is exactly what a person with a revolver would do if the gun didn't go bang the first time, and the school that doesn't teach that probably isn't worth attending! Besides, I've heard enough stories of people in high-stress situations, who "shot" their gun several times before realizing it wasn't going BANG, that I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that, in the midst of an adrenaline dump, most of us would probably attempt a "second strike" before realizing that the "first strike" didn't work. Sure it's not the way schools teach it, but schools deal in theory, the way things ought to be. Reality is rarely so clean.

[BRL]

I'm a bit of a Homer for Sig, but I can't imagine anyone not liking the P220 Carry SAO I just picked up. That thing shoots so sweet. I shot it along with my Kimber Custom TLEII RL, which I really like, and the Sig blew it away. I've got a crisp 3 lb trigger on the Kimber and the new, unbroken in trigger on the Sig was sweet. The muzzle flip on the 4" Sig was not even close to the Kimber. I've got a new favorite shooter!

[Thunderjohn]

My Glock 30 is still on it's way, but I'm sure I'll like it. I love my Bersa Ultra Compact 45.
And my S&W CS45 is a great size, but 8 rounds isn't much anymore.

The Glock single and a half action is what gets a lot of them sold to departments that won't allow
SAO guns. The training of drawing with your trigger finger extended will hopefully prevail in a high stress
situations.

I don't know many guys, if any that actually that use a thumb safety on a DA/SA gun. I think that would take even more training to get that thing off,
than it would to keep your trigger finger off the trigger.

The Beretta and Taurus 92's, 99's etc, can be carried cocked and locked or hammer down for DA first shot, for whoever was wondering.

[mnglocker]

I'm having a hard time believing nobody has any love for a S&W 625...?

[plblark]

I have some love for it. I just don't own one yet.

[Ironbear]

Not to disparage ironguy's SAO P220 Sig, but I wouldn't discourage people from trying DAO triggers. They may not be Bullseye guns, but they are capable of excellent accuracy if the trigger puller does their job. In Friday's impromptu let's-try-each-other's-gun range session, I shot the center target with a Sig P220 with their double action only (DAK) trigger at about 10 yards. With the exception of the lone, called flyer at 5 o'clock, the seven other went into a 2x2 inch square. That DAK trigger is as sweet a true DAO trigger as I've ever encountered.

[JK-linux]

I carry a Glock 30 with 200gr Double Tap +P Bonded Defence (Gold Dot) ammo in it. I feel it conceals well, and I shoot better than I usually shoot with my 1991-A1. Hell, my wife carries one as well and she has no complaints either.

[BRL]

Not to disparage ironguy's SAO P220 Sig, but I wouldn't discourage people from trying DAO triggers. They may not be Bullseye guns, but they are capable of excellent accuracy if the trigger puller does their job. In Friday's impromptu let's-try-each-other's-gun range session, I shot the center target with a Sig P220 with their double action only (DAK) trigger at about 10 yards. With the exception of the lone, called flyer at 5 o'clock, the seven other went into a 2x2 inch square. That DAK trigger is as sweet a true DAO trigger as I've ever encountered.

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Revisiting this old thread. I'm glad to see my old posts show up here.

Caution: Thread drift ahead

I had a DAK P239 which I liked, but it was the first DAO type trigger I had owned / fired. Shortly after that I picked up one of the many available Beretta 96Ds. The first time I fired it was at my CHL test as it was there as my backup gun to the P232 I was going to use but failed on me (another story for another day). I scored 248 out of 250 with it. I was happy being the first time shooting it. That trigger was smooth and sweet. I much preferred it to the DAK trigger, but the P239 was a nice size carry gun. Since then I dicovered the P2000 LEM trigger. Do yourself a favor and try out the LEM when you have an opportunity. Warning, it is going to cost you.

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I still love my P220 Carry SAO, but I've since acquired a new favorite and is usually my EDC. I bought a NIB Sig P245. It shoots every bit as good as the P220 Carry but is a smaller, lighter (less capacity too though) and after a trip to http://www.customizedcreationz.com for a new reversed two tone finish, night sights, skeleton trigger and hammer, she's a real looker too. Had to giver her some new leather to boot, one of my Horsehide BNPs with Chocolate Sharkskin Trim.

[thunderoussilence]

I vote for the XD45 like the one for sale in the classifieds section.

I had ftf with the XD45, So I got a g19 no issues.

[rugersol]

No question!

[diskdoctr]

.45 in a Non-1911. My choices would be Bersa UC45 (7rd) easy to conceal. Been one of my carry choices for a long time. Or XD45 (Service model.. 13rd).. Not as easy to conceal as the Bersa but I can do it pretty easily. And, hey 13 rounds of 45. Pretty nice.

[Pezhead]

G17 in Serpa. I would have no problems with one in .45though. I also like the M&P(my wife likes it better and shoots it better) we don't own one. I also have a 642 I just picked up that works for pocket carry.

[Squib Joe]

Personally I lean towards the HK USP45 or HK45. Nobody has mentioned the Para LDA guns (the look and feel of a 1911 - no Condition One required). Or the FN FNP-45 maybe.