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Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby Faust on Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:56 pm

Background:
Glock 19, manufacturered and purchased new in 2006, 5,000-10,000 rounds thorugh it. Only modifications are Trijicon Night Sights, Glock Extended Slide Release, and a Siderlock Manual Safety. Cleaned every couple hundred rounds.

Problem:
Since installation of Siderlock Safety/Trigger, occasionally there will be a very distinct malfunction. I noticed this, because before installation, I virtually never had malfunctions.

-Only happens on the first shot after inserting a new magazine and racking the slide.
-Happens seemingly at random; about 1/4 of the time a new mag is inserted.
-The trigger does not act right. It feels as if it slips; not completely loose as if it were out of battery, and not a normal hammer drop as if everything was working properly. I can feel tension start up, then the tension lets go, there is a click (a different kind of click, not the usual dryfire sound) as the trigger "slips" and goes all the way back.
-I have checked; the gun is not out of battery, and the rounds are not duds. The firing pin is not making contact with the round in the chamber.

Solution:
I am not at all experienced in gunsmithing; I know as much as I have needed to get by so far. However, I have come up with a couple theories about the source of the problem.

-It is possible that the Siderlock Trigger/Safety is causing the problem, however it does not change anything internally, so mechanically it does not make sense that it would cause the problem.
-I think that more likely, is that I messed something up when I detail stripped the frame in order to swap triggers.
-Or, something completely unrelated has broken or become fouled.

Regardless of the source of the problem, I have no idea how to fix it. I will be going to a couple gun shops this evening to have someone look at it; if anyone could recommend somewhere or someone to take it to, it would be much appreciated.
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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby westberg on Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:15 pm

Try reinstalling the factory trigger and see if it still happens.
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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby goalie on Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:43 pm

You have a manual safety on a glock?

It kills me to say this, but sell it and buy a 1911....

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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby fatboy97 on Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:59 pm

Put another safety on a Glock... besides all the ones that are built into it already... it's just not natural... put the factory trigger back... test it out... no issues, leave it alone... still issues, have an Glock Armor inspect it.
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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby MrVvrroomm on Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:44 pm

Glocks generally run 100% right out of the box. Anything you add (with the exception of sights) will make it less than 100% reliable.

I'll get to the point: remove that stupid Siderlock and return it to all oem Glock parts and it WILL run 100%. I'll take a look at it free of charge for you, but I won't work on it with a Siderlock. Hell, bring it over in a box if you want, I'll make it work.
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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby onebohemian on Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:07 pm

[quote="MrVvrroomm"]. . . remove that stupid Siderlock . . . . ."

A truer statement was never said.

You do nothing but put your life more at risk by carrying a gun that has had such a gimick added to it. If you feel that you need a manual safety you can flip on and off, buy a different carry gun. If this is just a range gun, there's no need for a manual safety (there's no need for a manual safety on a carry gun either though).
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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby Snowgun on Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:42 am

fatboy97 wrote: still issues, have an Glock Armor inspect it.


Be Warned!

If you send a glock in to the company that has after market parts, they will remove those parts, destroy them, and replace them with factory parts. Thats how they roll.

Always keep your factory parts.



If it's safeties you want, get a 1911, they have THREE!

(can anyone guess what the 3rd and most important safety is?) :D
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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby macphisto on Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:10 am

Snowgun wrote:If it's safeties you want, get a 1911, they have THREE!

(can anyone guess what the 3rd and most important safety is?) :D

Failure to feed?
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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby 1911fan on Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:35 am

How about the FIRST safety with all guns, the User interface....

If you feel the need for an additional manual safety on a composite gun, look at the M&P S&W's.
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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby Snowgun on Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:38 am

macphisto wrote:Failure to feed?


*Pffffff* <-- (sound of coffee hitting screen) :lol: :lol:
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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby Snowgun on Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:39 am

1911fan wrote:How about the FIRST safety with all guns, the User interface....



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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby Squib Joe on Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:00 am

Sounds like a bent trigger cruciform. Either way I'd get that Sidrlock out of there first.
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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby justaguy on Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:19 am

Try taking out the Siderlock Safety/Trigger.

(that may have already been posted but I have everyone but Faust on ignore.)
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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby Paul on Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:24 am

This post was made by justaguy who is currently on your ignore list.

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Re: Unique Glock Malfunction (Seeking Help)

Postby Bessy on Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:25 am

Snowgun wrote:
1911fan wrote:How about the FIRST safety with all guns, the User interface....



We have a winner!



I thought you were going to say firing pin block.. at which point I would given you a virtual punch in the balls.
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