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Reliabilty

Postby grousemaster on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:36 pm

Just wondering what peoples thoughts were on reliability/ruggedness of a top notch 1911 vs. a popular polymer pistol (i.e. glock, xd, H&K, etc). If you were dropped into a war zone or unknown terrain would you want your trusty 1911 or a plastic gun? (pretend capacity is the same for practical purposes)
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Re: Reliabilty

Postby Dave Pendleton on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:39 pm

Oh cripes, this is gonna leave a mark...
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Re: Reliabilty

Postby farmerj on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:40 pm

sigh......

Glock, 1911 and 92FS/M9....(owned them all)


Other than a revolver....

92FS/M9 every time.
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Re: Reliabilty

Postby bensdad on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:41 pm

War zone? You can keep your pistol. I'll take an AK.
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Re: Reliabilty

Postby infidel on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:46 pm

Dupe. :lol:
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Re: Reliabilty

Postby gyrfalcon on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:47 pm

Glock... no other gun mentioned can be completely disassembled to it's bare parts like the Glock can (with one small tool). I'm also of the opinion that none of the guns mentioned can truly take the abuse a Glock could.

bensdad wrote:War zone? You can keep your pistol. I'll take an AK.


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Re: Reliabilty

Postby BBeckwith on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:49 pm

With FarmerJ here I shoot my 92FS just a tad bit better than my 1911 and I hate glocks, so it would be 92FS->1911->anything else->glock

Truthfully ruggedness I don't know if I feel there is a big difference 1911 or the 92 to me
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Re: Reliabilty

Postby crbutler on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:49 pm

In a war zone?

A GI issue 1911. Not my fancy guns here that I can keep clean.

The slop will keep it running, and .45 ball has it all over 9mm ball. If I'm shooting a pistol any further than I could throw it in a war zone, I'm doing something wrong.
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Re: Reliabilty

Postby Stradawhovious on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:53 pm

gyrfalcon wrote:Glock... no other gun mentioned can be completely disassembled to it's bare parts like the Glock can (with one small tool). I'm also of the opinion that none of the guns mentioned can truly take the abuse a Glock could.



You've obviously never owned a 1911. I can detail strip a GI model 1911 to it's individual parts in a matter of minutes with no tools. And to say that plastic can handle more abuse than steel is silly.

Thanks for playing though!

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Re: Reliabilty

Postby Norsesmithy on Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:04 pm

I'd say an AR-15.

For a sidearm, I'd go with my Kimber Warrior.
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Re: Reliabilty

Postby Dave Pendleton on Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:19 pm

Well, there's this.

If you really want AK-like reliability in a handgun, you need to go back 60+ years and get a Webley or Enfield pistol.

This argument is perpetually silly. I've taken a bunch of classes were we all had to wait around for someone to get their handgun running. I'm not going to elaborate on the handgun, but I think we've all seen this (unless you're taking classes where the load-out is 50 rounds).
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Re: Reliabilty

Postby farmerj on Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:22 pm

guess one can get the best of both worlds and get a CZ-52.

Package in the hand, power of an AK.
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Re: Reliabilty

Postby TH3180 on Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:22 pm

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Re: Reliabilty

Postby Dave Pendleton on Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:27 pm

Stradawhovious wrote:And to say that plastic can handle more abuse than steel is silly.


Carefull, elasticity isn't just a good idea, it's the law.
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Re: Reliabilty

Postby bensdad on Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:27 pm

I've taken a bunch of classes were we all had to wait around for someone to get their handgun running. I'm not going to elaborate on the handgun, but I think we've all seen this


I especially love it when the owner acts like it's never happened with their gun before :roll: . I can't really think of a specific brand that fails more than any other. Cept maybe Glock, but that's not fair when half the guns on the line are Glocks.
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