Safety Or No Safety? M&P 9c

[TheRealSOB]

I've decided I'm getting a M&P 9c. Should I get the model with the thumb safety or without?

[PhilaBOR]

That's a personal question.

I carry a FS M&P without a lever on the gun that blocks the action. I carry it in a quality holster and obey the 4 rules of gun safety. Many others do the same without any negligent discharges.

OTOH, there have been times I wanted to carry it in my holster shirt but chose a different gun with a Safety, since i could accidentally get my finger in the trigger guard when drawing the gun.

[JustinPo]

No safety, one less thing to worry about its not a 1911 so it's redundant.

[rugersol]

I'd get it with it!

[rcos]

I got it with thumb safety but without the mag safety and without hillary lock.

You can modify the gun at a later date to remove the thumb safety pretty easily, but if you get a version w/o you cant modify it to add it.

[Terry]

No safety, one less thing to worry about its not a 1911 so it's redundant.

+1

Under stress you would have to disengage that using fine motor skills, which you won't have. Those weapons have internal safeties, so I would say no.

I have a few of M&Ps for class guns and one of which has the mag safety. I HATE the mag safety.

Just my two cents, its your gun, do what you are comfortable with.

[EJSG19]

It makes no difference what you get. You train with what you will use. That's it. Learn to fight with or without. There are millions of guns in both types, all work.

[tman]

Under stress you would have to disengage that using fine motor skills, which you won't have.

I vehemently disagree. There MAY be a degradation in fine motor skills.

Moving your thumb an inch isn't that difficult under stress.

My personal opinion is that it's a TRAINING issue, not a motor skills issue.

[ForeverTwoWheels]

Air Force MP's carry one in the pipe safety off.

Infer from that what you will.

[tman]

Air Force MP's carry one in the pipe safety off.

Infer from that what you will.

The 92 was designed to be carried that way. Heavy double action trigger for the first round.

[Paul]

Under stress you would have to disengage that using fine motor skills, which you won't have.

I vehemently disagree. There MAY be a degradation in fine motor skills.

Moving your thumb an inch isn't that difficult under stress.

My personal opinion is that it's a TRAINING issue, not a motor skills issue.

+1

It all comes down to training and muscle memory. I have seen a ton of folks who can't even remember to disengage a safety during a qualification course... But those are folks who don't practice.

Millions of people have successfully used guns equipped with a manual safety in all types of defensive and combat environments.

I'm not a fan of them personally, and feel they have some potential disadvantages, but as long as you incorporate that into your practice regularly, it's something you can successfully use.

Training/practice is everything.

[Drizzle]

Air Force MP's carry one in the pipe safety off.

Infer from that what you will.

And the SPs are the ne plus ultra of gun handlers?

Not sure I'd use them as my example, and I'm guessing not a lot of SPs have to do quick draws at their posts. The only one I know who used to guard AF One didn't bother much with his nine, he just carried his rifle. I think he set it down when Reagan showed him his crapper though (true story, at Pt. Mugu way back when).

[TacticalGunny]

No safety

[TacticalGunny]

No safety

[Thunderjohn]

Besides the fact that you may be too excited to remember the safety ( you more than likely won't
be able train with the same scenario as having someone trying to kill you )
on the M&P the safety is light and is easy to accidentally engage with thumbs forward grip. Try it out a little.
My main question for guys that want a thumb safety on something other than a 1911 is why?