NEED HELP!!! ATTENTION TANFOGLIO guys

[sgruenhagen44]

So I traded my sr9c yesterday to ktech. I took my new Witness to the range today. I shot consistently low, about 8 inches or so. I never had this problem with a pistol before. My question is... Can I buy some sort of aftermarket sight for this pistol? I need to bring the POI up, a lotttt!!!! It's so frustrating!!! I think i shot my DOA LC( better. My groups were tight, I'm just not going to be okay with having a f***ed up sight picture and aiming at the top of the paper. So yea, if anyone who has experience with these pistols let me know if there is a remedy. In the mean time I guess I will try to shop for some adjustable sights. One thing to note is that one of the employees at bills shot my gun and he hit dead center. I asked him what his sight picture was like and he said he was covering the dot. I tried the same, but only managed to bring my group up about 2 inches max!!!

[minnesotatv]

a. 8" low at what distance?

b. shooting off hand, or off a rest/bag?

c. what sight picture?

d. post pics of the sights on the pistol.

[sgruenhagen44]

8 inches at about everything between 8-15 yards.

shooting free hand

Doing a lollipop hold. Puttin the dot right on top of my front sight

Don't have a camera right now. But the sights can only be drifted left and right.

[sgruenhagen44]

I learned a hard lesson. Don't sell or trade guns. Just buy new ones.

[rugersol]

Best way to start is to let someone else shoot it ... ya did that ... and he hit dead center!

if ya choose to believe that was a fluke, ya should try to find yet another guy!

[sgruenhagen44]

Best way to start is to let someone else shoot it ... ya did that ... and he hit dead center!

if ya choose to believe that was a fluke, ya should try to find yet another guy!

Fluke or not, I shot 150 rounds today and they were all low. Exact same spot. So either way, somethings gotta change. Not only that but he told me his sight picture was way different for me. My last two guns were for the most part right one. Keep in mind I am shooting consistent tight groups, just not where I want them.

[EJSG19]

Best way to start is to let someone else shoot it ... ya did that ... and he hit dead center!

if ya choose to believe that was a fluke, ya should try to find yet another guy!

Fluke or not, I shot 150 rounds today and they were all low. Exact same spot. So either way, somethings gotta change. Not only that but he told me his sight picture was way different for me. My last two guns were for the most part right one. Keep in mind I am shooting consistent tight groups, just not where I want them.

No offense, but to us, that means nothing. It is within the realm of possibility that a person can repeat the same mistake over and over with great success, but not solve their problem by doing so.

Your sight picture is one thing, your grip is another, and the way you pull the trigger yet another. Those are just a few of the things that ALL have to work together to make POA match POI.

I'd find a stand up guy, with competent instructing skills (no shortage of those around this place) and meet face to face at the range. For a gun to be dead on for one guy, and 8" off for the other guy, sounds like it is the Indian and not the Arrow if you want an honest opinion. You said it all yourself.

Keep in mind, some guns don't seem to naturally fit some people, that doesn't mean you can't learn to shoot them, but it takes a willingness to listen to someone who know's the score, and also to train with that gun until you get it right. Self-taught is not a good thing when it comes to shooting.

[JJ]

All the Tanfo's I have owned liked a blot on the bull, instead of floating the bull on the front site.

[MrVvrroomm]

http://www.henningshootsguns.com/shop/eaa.main.html

[sgruenhagen44]

well regardless of what anyone might think about whatever mistakes I'm making, I still have not gotten a reply on any adjustable sights for the gun. THat was really the reason for the post in the first place. Left and Right is perfect. Couldn't be anymore centered. Some guns just don't work for some like they do for others. I must be doin something right if im centered. I wouldn't think I'm jerking the trigger one way or the other. This might be a stretch... but is it possible to just put a different upper on these things? I like the trigger a lot. The front sight is not able to be removed from the upper. KTECH said the gun is called a full size compact???? I guess they don't make it anymore.

[jshuberg]

You shouldn't be looking to solve your accuracy problem by modifying your equipment if the problem is with your technique. In doing so you are simply reinforcing bad technique.

If you have a really bad astigmatism or other deformation of the eye where you perceive the sights to be properly aligned when in fact they are not, then adjusting them to suit your condition would be appropriate. Other than that though, adjusting or changing your sights to compensate for technique will have the unintended effect of limiting your ability to advance in skill, and in the development of bad habits that can take years to unlearn.

If you shoot other pistols well, then consider this to be the gun that has revealed a flaw in your technique that for whatever reason doesn't evidence itself with your other pistols. This gun isn't a problem that needs to be fixed, it has done you the favor of showing you an issue with your technique, and is providing you a way to observe, diagnose and correct the issue. This is the gun that will teach you how to be a better shooter. Listen to what's its trying to tell you.

[Ironbear]

Call EAA. They would be the most likely source.

[sgruenhagen44]

You shouldn't be looking to solve your accuracy problem by modifying your equipment if the problem is with your technique. In doing so you are simply reinforcing bad technique.

If you have a really bad astigmatism or other deformation of the eye where you perceive the sights to be properly aligned when in fact they are not, then adjusting them to suit your condition would be appropriate. Other than that though, adjusting or changing your sights to compensate for technique will have the unintended effect of limiting your ability to advance in skill, and in the development of bad habits that can take years to unlearn.

If you shoot other pistols well, then consider this to be the gun that has revealed a flaw in your technique that for whatever reason doesn't evidence itself with your other pistols. This gun isn't a problem that needs to be fixed, it has done you the favor of showing you an issue with your technique, and is providing you a way to observe, diagnose and correct the issue. This is the gun that will teach you how to be a better shooter. Listen to what's its trying to tell you.

Ok old and wise jshuberg... So whats it tellin me? My groups are the same size as with every other gun. SO I know its accurate, not sayin thats an issue. I have had bows before where certain sights will not work for whatever reason because you can't get a large enough adjustment range. It doesn't mean you're doin stuff wrong if you're consistent. Not tryin to be a dick or anything... Just sayin. So what now? I'm getting all these posts just tellin me that its me but not a whole lot of constructive criticizm. Since I have never had this problem with any other pistol before, I think it might be easier to just get something else. Sometimes certain **** just does not work for some people. I have already had two guys say now that they use a higher sight picture to hit the bull. In my mind it might be a situation to havin a shotgun fitted. If a shot gun is not fitted properly you will never have the correct POI. Maybe this one just doesn't work for ME. So you know what screw it, I'm chalkin it up as a loss. I just posted it up for sale and maybe one of you fine gentlemen would like to purchase it. Ill just get a single stack nine again for my carry gun. Figure out what full size ACP I want later. I have shot a smith 1911, tauraus 1911, sig p220. All .45s that did work for me!!!

[EJSG19]

Wow.

[yuppiejr]

Wow x2