I was quoted 2-4 months unless someone cancels, then I move up the list. Arnzen was showing the Mongoose (prettier-cheaper model) on their site as sold. I suspect it was a special order since they told me they put SO's up on the site. BTW I passed on the optional 38spl cylinder which was a grand extra. They also sell a 9mm cylinder. I thought 9mm bullets were narrower than .357 hence I'd wonder about the barrel.