Is .40s&w effectively done?

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Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby INOR on Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:02 am

Is anyone buying .40sw anymore? I still have one .40 but rarely shoot it. And I mean rarely in that I haven’t shot it in over three years. Lol. But seriously, I don’t know anyone who is buying handguns in .40 at this point. That window seems to have closed. Wonder if it’s still big with law enforcement?


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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:47 am

INOR wrote:Is anyone buying .40sw anymore? I still have one .40 but rarely shoot it. And I mean rarely in that I haven’t shot it in over three years. Lol. But seriously, I don’t know anyone who is buying handguns in .40 at this point. That window seems to have closed. Wonder if it’s still big with law enforcement?


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Some folks still swear by it. I think it is popular enough that it will be around for awhile.
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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby Bearcatrp on Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:26 pm

Hell NO. Like any caliber, it has its place. My last handgun purchase was a 10mm. Nice to share bullets between the two.
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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby rtk on Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:14 pm

It’s my go to at the cabin and winter carry.
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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby blkcat on Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:19 am

"Done" in the sense that I wouldn't expect to see it given much priority in new firearm designs - see the new generation of subcompacts like the P365 which have ignored .40 S&W altogether. But there are enough pistols in .40 S&W out there that ammo will be easy to come by for a long time.
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Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby gun_fan111v2 on Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:02 pm

This is one pistol caliber I managed to avoid, went straight to 10mm. Some of the factory 10mm ammo is loaded to 40sw specs though, so you can say I shoot it once in a while :)
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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby Jackpine Savage on Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:45 pm

The FBI switched to 9, more and more police departments are doing the same. It never interested me. It's aggravating when a 40 sneaks into the tumbler and a 9 gets stuck inside.
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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby mmcnx2 on Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:02 pm

I wouldn't buy a new 40. But I have 2, a USPSA limited gun built long ago when 40 was the go to caliber, and a Glock 27 - again back in the day when if you wanted a subcompact it was a 40 or nothing. The Glock is a nightstand gun so it fills the role and isn't worth replacing just to move to 9. The limited gun is shooting machine and when downloaded is great for younger shooters or just plinking - again based on how infrequent its shot and the initial cost its just not worth replacing.
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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:33 pm

Nothing wrong with a .40. It will perform as good as a 9. Actually when there were ammo shortages for 9 , .40 could be found so that might be a good argument to have one.
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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:34 pm

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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby LarryFlew on Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:53 pm

As a lot of you know I used to buy all the once fired range brass from a police school and resell it. Typical was (10) 5 gallon buckets full. 10 years ago was about 50/50. List time I did it was 5 years ago and there where 2 buckets of 40. They guy that took over from me said 2020 was 1 bucket.
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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby Drizzle on Sun Dec 25, 2022 7:15 pm

I have a older G23 (still labeled .40 S&W) w a 9mm conversion barrel. Didn't bother with the extractor, because I don't shoot it enough.

In addition, I have about seven loaded magazines full of .40, and 3-4 boxes full. Won't be buying any more, but that will likely be around for a while. Maybe if someone on here offers a smoking deal on .40, Otherwise, I'll buy nine.

Whether it's my shortcoming or not, I never shot .40 as well as nine or .45. It will still go bang, however, so I see no reason to get rid of it, since I still have a weapon that will shoot it.
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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby ashes on Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:27 pm

9mm seems easier for everyone, right? It's produced en masse so it has some cost effectiveness especially in large purchase. IMHO that's it's key advantage.

People say ".40 has too much recoil" but then they buy a micro nine or a 10 mm but your .40 G23 "has too much recoil". The recoil argument, to me, is self disproving. Besides, recoil in some ways is a product of poor form and is managed with good form.

People say ".40 doesn't have appreciably better terminal performance than 9mm". And indeed, it may be only slightly better for ending fights, right? But, is this an argument for or against the 9mm? If having equivalent effectiveness disqualifies the .40 why couldn't make the opposite argument and disqualify the 9? Easy answer: Cost. This is why I think cost is the one and only factor driving the anti-.40 rhetoric.

I sometimes carry a .40 S&W. I also sometimes carry 9mm, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .380 ACP, and .45 ACP. They can all save my life and the lives of my family. I don't get why there's so much internet hate for the .40 right now. It was and is a great cartridge and nobody ever said it was the end-all of human existence; just a great choice of many great choices. Still is.

I know I'm speaking to a very small and well informed crowd here. Hopefully nothing I said was condescending. Peace out my brothers and sisters.
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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby Markemp on Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:36 pm

Which caliber is more effective for self defense: the one you shoot 100 rounds a month at the range or the one you shoot 500 rounds a month at the range?
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Re: Is .40s&w effectively done?

Postby ex-LT on Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:30 am

Markemp wrote:Which caliber is more effective for self defense: the one you shoot 100 rounds a month at the range or the one you shoot 500 rounds a month at the range?

IF the only factor you are taking into consideration is rounds downrange, then the obvious answer to your question would be the latter. HOWEVER, there are numerous other questions a person must ask before a valid answer can be given.

1. Which gun do you shoot better? If you can maintain a 2" group st 25 yards with the gun you shoot 100 rounds with, but can't hit the target at 7 yards with the 500 round gun, I would opine the 100 round gun is more effective.

2. If you shoot both guns equally well, but the 100 round gun is a .380/9 mm/.40/.45/etc, and the 500 round gun is a .22lr, I would argue the 100 round gun is more effective.

I could go on, but you get the drift.
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