Taurus CIA trouble

[sochr000]

So, that Taurus CIA I bought a while back, I shot it for the first time today and already have trouble with it. Hopefully someone here can help me figure out what I can do to fix it. Just to get it out of the way now, I was firing factory ammo, nothing cheap (I think the brand was "Zero", yellow box) so it's not a bad reload, or wolf ammo or anything. I was firing .357 Mag, no visible problems with the ammo.

While shooting it seems the end of the case is too thick, and seems to be wedging itself between the frame and the cylinder. Sometimes it will let me fire through all 5 rounds, but one the last set I shot it wedged itself in there good, and I can't get it to cycle to the next round, can't get the cylinder to open so I can eject the cases, other than a little wiggle room, it wont budge. Tomorrow I can hopefully get to the store I bought it at and see what they'll do, but this is bothering me.

[Shipyard]

i've had that trouble with revolvers and cheap ammo. it appears the thickness of the rim isn't as tightly controlled on some of the lower cost ammo and the cylinder can stick. look to see that you don't have something jammed out the front of the cylinder that's hanging you up either.

if it was me, and i determined the rim was hanging up i'd spray some lube in there and stand on it a little. i can't imagine that you would damage the cylinder or the arm before you'd push past a brass casing but then again, not my gun.

hate to say it, but you may have some ammo for donation

[Pinnacle]

I am thinking that it is the primer seating depth and not the cases so much - that is something to look at first.

[westberg]

I have a S & W that the extractor rod likes to back out and then lock up the cylinder. Once you get the cylinder open check to make sure its tight. If you can get at it in the closed position see if you can tighten it.

[justaguy]

Hopefully someone here can help me figure out what I can do to fix it.

The obvious answer is you shouldn't have bought a Taurus, its to late for that, lets get over it and move on. Now you need to quit screwing around and sell it ASAP. Its that simple. Let this be a lesson to you and to all that are reading this.

[Wadero]

Hopefully someone here can help me figure out what I can do to fix it.

The obvious answer is you shouldn't have bought a Taurus, its to late for that, lets get over it and move on. Now you need to quit screwing around and sell it ASAP. Its that simple. Let this be a lesson to you and to all that are reading this.

You're just bitter because you broke a Taurus.

[Stradawhovious]

Do the cartridges easily seat all the way to the rim in the cylinder? If not you definately have a case issue.......
If the primers are seated properly, check to see if they are backing out when fired. I've had this issue before with cheap factory ammo. If the primer backs out a ways, that cylinder will lock up on you right quick.

[Bessy]

Hopefully someone here can help me figure out what I can do to fix it.

The obvious answer is you shouldn't have bought a Taurus, its to late for that, lets get over it and move on. Now you need to quit screwing around and sell it ASAP. Its that simple. Let this be a lesson to you and to all that are reading this.

I've had several Taurus revolvers over the years. All have been 100%. Justa is a brand whore. I agree with the other posters here. Zero makes good projectiles but I haven't tried their reloads. Check the cases, and the primers. More than likely this is ammo related.

[plblark]

I have a S & W that the extractor rod likes to back out and then lock up the cylinder. Once you get the cylinder open check to make sure its tight. If you can get at it in the closed position see if you can tighten it.

I had that same problem. Plus, someone else had tried to fig it with a file. Selurcspi set it right for me.

[onebohemian]

I don't have an answer, but do have a guess. If she rotates on the first, second and maybe third rounds, but you find it dragging on the fourth and fifth, is it possible that the earlier fired rounds are causing the remaining rounds in 4 and 5 to be pulled apart (lengthened) a little? I think the ultralight revolvers come with instructions that explain this phenomenon, whereby the bullet is literally pulled out of the casing on the last rounds due to the recoil of the earlier rounds. I don't know enough about the revolver to know whether the front of the cylinder is more snug (coned a little) so that longer rounds would not sit as deep in the cylinder, causing their rims to drag. As I said, just a guess.

[mitchx3]

Mark some of the casings that wedged and label the cylinders, swap casings to different combinations of cylinders and you should be able to rule out the gun as the problem.

[sochr000]

Now that I'm home from work I took another look at it, and after 20mins of fiddling with it I got the cylinder to open so I could take a look at the cases. It was as some of you said, the primers were bulging out where the hammer/firing pin had struck them, and the case that was causing the pistol to bind up was missing some metal where the bulge had been.

In a week or two I'll have to go buy some better ammo to test that out.

Thanks for the help.

[sochr000]

I have gotten out to shoot this a few times now, and had some trouble with everything but Blazer ammo, until just the other day, now it seems some of the Blazer ammo is giving me trouble. I have the revolver in the safe now, and wont use it again until I can figure out a way to make it shoot reliably.

I plan to eventually start reloading for .357Mag, but am a whole lot less comfortable buying the die set if it might be a problem with the pistol.

Is this something I should consider sending back under warranty?

[shackleford]

I sure as heck would send it back. Gun doesn't work the way it should, Taurus needs to make it right. Let us know how Taurus CS is for you, I hope it is better than what I hear. Good luck.

[1911fan]

Its the head spacing. the cylinder is too far forward, so that when the gun is fired, the round has nothing behind it to support the case. This is common problem on taurus. The headspace is set by the hand, the cylinder stop and the length itself of the cylinder in reference to the frame window.



Notice the hammer, it controls two items besides the sear, The hand is at the rear and rotates the cylinder and when combined with the tension that the trigger places on the stop, holds the cylinder dead center between the two. The Stop rises rearward as well, and drives the cylinder back against the heel of the cylinder, that flat round section between the pawl teeth on the back of the cylinder.

As the gun is fired, the hand and the stop lock the cylinder back against that heel, as soon as the shot is fired, the stop is dropping while the pawl lifts and the hammer comes back. this relaxing allows the cylinder to move forward a couple of thousandths, and this gives the clearance needed for the empty case to clear the recoil shield on the back of the frame window. Most likely your cylinder stop is not long enough to hold the cylinder back against the force of the hammer hitting the case, and is allowing too much space for the case to set back and then bulge, preventing them from moving freely back into the chamber.