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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby gyrfalcon on Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:20 pm

White Horseradish wrote:35 dead, 150 wounded. Much shrapnel in the walls. The bomb was equivalent to 7 kilos of TNT.


I was thinking it was 7 kilotons not just kilo at first... seems like this has happened before, with the same sort of bomb:

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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby 1911fan on Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:25 pm

My fear is not airports. I have other higher profile risks I worry about
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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby Squib Joe on Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:31 pm

White Horseradish wrote:
Squib Joe wrote:The Israelis don't look as hard for bad items (2 oz shampoos and nail clippers) but instead focus on looking for potentially bad people. Normally these are going to be young Muslim men, of course, so this is something we would never do here because everyone would think it racist. So instead we'll keep on patting down grandmothers and 8-year old girls from Iowa just to be fair.


AFAIK, they look for behavior rather than appearance or ethnicity.

Personally, I think that fixating on Middle Easterners is a bad idea, especially here in US. We have tons of converts who look like anyone and we know they can be radical enough. Also, there are radical Muslims from parts of Caucasus and the Balkans who don't fit the type either, and they are far from rare.


I didn't say Middle Easterners. I said Muslims, and yes they come in all colors. And yes the Israelis treat them differently when it comes to airport security, as I believe they should.
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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby macphisto on Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:33 pm

1911fan wrote:My fear is not airports. I have other higher profile risks I worry about

Don't worry, I don't think they're gonna mess with Gopher Bar or Alary's.
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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby gyrfalcon on Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:38 pm

Squib Joe wrote:I didn't say Middle Easterners. I said Muslims- and yes they come in all colors.


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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby Heffay on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:24 pm

What does a muslim look like? Does he look like Richard Reed? Or does he look more like Timothy McVeigh?
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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby farmerj on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:26 pm

7 kilo is ~15.4 lbs. Sorry, wouldn't want to be anywhere near that when it goes off.

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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby bstrawse on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:28 pm

Squib Joe wrote:
White Horseradish wrote:I wonder if this will result in checkpoints to just walk into an airport. Ugh.


It has been this way in Israel for years. You'll go through two or three levels of security before even entering the terminal.


I have seen similar in Paris - I was once greeted at the curb by a French National Police officer who had several questions for me.

I'm sure Israel is stricter.

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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby hammAR on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:28 pm

Heffay wrote:What does a muslim look like? Does he look like Richard Reed? Or does he look more like Timothy McVeigh?

We don't know.................

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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby White Horseradish on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:29 pm

Heffay wrote:What does a muslim look like? Does he look like Richard Reed? Or does he look more like Timothy McVeigh?
Beat me to it.

Squib Joe wrote:I didn't say Middle Easterners. I said Muslims, and yes they come in all colors. And yes the Israelis treat them differently when it comes to airport security, as I believe they should.
How do they know who is a Muslim?

Oh, and the article says different.
hammAR wrote:We don't know.................
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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby DeanC on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:30 pm

Heffay wrote:What does a muslim look like? Does he look like Richard Reed? Or does he look more like Timothy McVeigh?

Or maybe Joseph Cohen or Adam Pearlman or Colleen LaRose
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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby Heffay on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:31 pm

I know! We should force everyone to declare their religion on their passports. That way they'll have to identify themselves as Islam. And let's put a checkbox on there for "radicalized" so we can identify the true terrorists a lot easier. Heck, it'll work across ALL religions that way!
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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby White Horseradish on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:33 pm

Heffay wrote:I know! We should force everyone to declare their religion on their passports. That way they'll have to identify themselves as Islam. And let's put a checkbox on there for "radicalized" so we can identify the true terrorists a lot easier. Heck, it'll work across ALL religions that way!


Better yet, we can get them to wear something visible at a distance. Like, say, a patch with a symbol...
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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby gyrfalcon on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:33 pm

Heffay wrote:What does a muslim look like? Does he look like Richard Reed? Or does he look more like Timothy McVeigh?


A Muslim kinda looks like this:

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but it has a turban on so you can't see it too well. :lol:
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Re: Suicide bombing in Moscow

Postby WWJD on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:58 pm

Europe in the 70's was ugly......airports......Paris, Rome.
Jihads would mow down and grenade passengers waiting at the El Al counters.
It stopped really quickly. they met Allah before they even close.
Israel takes care of the security of it's citizens world wide, and they are VERY VERY GOOD!
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