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Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby Gunnar on Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:13 pm

Is it neccessary to have a permit to purchase for private party sales when you know the person is legally able to purchase firearms?

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Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby bstrawse on Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:14 pm

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Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby illbits on Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:15 pm

Just be sure you are both MN residents
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Re: Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby jspace on Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:12 pm

There is no paperwork at all REQUIRED for private party transfers. As long as you have no reason to think the transferee is a criminal, under 18, or otherwise prohibited in any way, you have nothing to worry about.

Keep in mind I am not a lawyer, and a quick search would have answered your question with less douchebaggery.
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Re: Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby Edward on Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:26 pm

Most private sellers who do so ask to see a permit in order to minimize their liability and the likelihood that they're selling to a prohibited person. If you're shown a permit, you have good reason to believe that the buyer is not a prohibited person, though what's legally required for private party sales is that you lack a reason to believe the buyer is a prohibited person.
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Re: Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby solidgun on Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:11 pm

illbits wrote:Just be sure you are both MN residents


Yeah, if they don't have permits, be sure to check for this as we live pretty close to WI.
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Re: Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby 2005 Vette on Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:52 pm

So if there is no paper work how does the gun get transferred out of your name? I'm glad I saw this post because I may be selling a pistol to a friend. Just so I'm clear nothing is needed? Thanks for the help.
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Re: Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby Edward on Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:42 pm

2005 Vette wrote:So if there is no paper work how does the gun get transferred out of your name? I'm glad I saw this post because I may be selling a pistol to a friend. Just so I'm clear nothing is needed? Thanks for the help.


Assuming that you purchased it in Minnesota, it is not registered to you. This state does not have a firearm registry. You do not legally need to do any paperwork to perform a sale to another private party, as long as the other person is a Minnesota resident as well (I'm assuming that you are one). You may want to have a bill of sale signed, or view a driver's license or permit to purchase or carry. If you're buying private party, expect that the seller might wish to do so.
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Re: Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby bulletproof on Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:56 pm

jspace wrote:Keep in mind I am not a lawyer, and a quick search would have answered your question with less douchebaggery.


I don't think there was any douchebaggery until you posted. :(
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Re: Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby jdege on Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:27 am

Gunnar wrote:Is it neccessary to have a permit to purchase for private party sales when you know the person is legally able to purchase firearms?

Thanks for any information.

Gunnar


No, but:

609.66 DANGEROUS WEAPONS.
Subd. 1f.Gross misdemeanor; transferring firearm without background check.

A person, other than a federally licensed firearms dealer, who transfers a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon to another without complying with the transfer requirements of section 624.7132, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor if the transferee possesses or uses the weapon within one year after the transfer in furtherance of a felony crime of violence, and if:

(1) the transferee was prohibited from possessing the weapon under section 624.713 at the time of the transfer; or

(2) it was reasonably foreseeable at the time of the transfer that the transferee was likely to use or possess the weapon in furtherance of a felony crime of violence.
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Re: Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby jspace on Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:25 pm

bulletproof wrote:
jspace wrote:Keep in mind I am not a lawyer, and a quick search would have answered your question with less douchebaggery.


I don't think there was any douchebaggery until you posted. :(


Yep, that was the point. :D
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Re: Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby steve4102 on Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:03 am

jdege wrote:
No, but:

609.66 DANGEROUS WEAPONS.
Subd. 1f.Gross misdemeanor; transferring firearm without background check.

A person, other than a federally licensed firearms dealer, who transfers a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon to another without complying with the transfer requirements of section 624.7132, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor if the transferee possesses or uses the weapon within one year after the transfer in furtherance of a felony crime of violence, and if:

(1) the transferee was prohibited from possessing the weapon under section 624.713 at the time of the transfer; or

(2) it was reasonably foreseeable at the time of the transfer that the transferee was likely to use or possess the weapon in furtherance of a felony crime of violence.


So, it's not legal?
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Re: Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby LarryFlew on Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:44 am

if:

(1) the transferee was prohibited from possessing the weapon under section 624.713 at the time of the transfer; or

(2) it was reasonably foreseeable at the time of the transfer that the transferee was likely to use or possess the weapon in furtherance of a felony crime of violence.
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Re: Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby bulletproof on Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:51 am

steve4102 wrote:So, it's not legal?


This forum really needs a Minnesota FAQ or generally asked questions post that's a sticky.

Here is the Minnesota law on reporting a transfer: 624.7132 REPORT OF TRANSFER.

I would generally recommend transferring a firearm though an FFL if you have any doubts about the law or the person you're dealing with. To answer your question specifically:

"Is it necessary to have a permit to purchase for private party sales when you know the person is legally able to purchase firearms?"

Not always.
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Re: Permit to transfer from private party to private party?

Postby steve4102 on Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:39 am

LarryFlew wrote:if:

(1) the transferee was prohibited from possessing the weapon under section 624.713 at the time of the transfer; or

(2) it was reasonably foreseeable at the time of the transfer that the transferee was likely to use or possess the weapon in furtherance of a felony crime of violence.



got it. maybe I should read more better before I post, Aye.
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