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Putting a scope on a mosin nagant? Mount found, need scope!

Postby kowalzekc on Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:02 pm

EDITHas anyone put a scope on a mosin nagant? If so, did you do a offest mount the scope to avoid the bolt handle or did you get the bolt handle mounted at an angle?EDIT

So tonight I went and got the UTG tri-rail set up that goes to the rear sight. I thought I would be able to mount a scope far enough back to view it easy.... :hmm: Not so much. However the mount its self seems decent enough and should hold well. I only had to use Ye old attitude adjuster once
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. My options are scrap this mount and go different, or just find a long eye relief scope. If anyone has suggestions on this type of scope let me know.
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby farmerj on Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:06 pm

I've got a sidemount I was going to put it on. Otherwise it's common to see a scout mount put onto the rear sight.
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby grousemaster on Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:07 pm

farmerj wrote:I've got a sidemount I was going to put it on. Otherwise it's common to see a scout mount put onto the rear sight.



what kind of accuracy can be had with a Mosin? I've always been kinda curious
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby kowalzekc on Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:10 pm

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farmerj wrote:I've got a sidemount I was going to put it on. Otherwise it's common to see a scout mount put onto the rear sight.



what kind of accuracy can be had with a Mosin? I've always been kinda curious

Well, the prior owner of mine who is about 60 with with not so great eye sight, junky ammo, shot it with open sights with less that a 2" group at 100 yards
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby farmerj on Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:10 pm

as accurate as any other mil-surp.

I was getting 2-3" groups with mine. Which is really pretty good. Clean em up, work the trigger, it would easily do better.
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby grousemaster on Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:14 pm

farmerj wrote:as accurate as any other mil-surp.

I was getting 2-3" groups with mine. Which is really pretty good. Clean em up, work the trigger, it would easily do better.



That's good to know, thanks. I have been thinking of picking one up myself as a plinker...but I'm also interested in getting an old Enfield for the same purpose.
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby Scratch on Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:40 pm

I had a scope on my MN. I used one of those mounts that relpaced the rear sight. It was OK, but you needed a scope with a long eye releif. The bonus was you didn't need a bent bolt. I took it and the ATI stock off because I went back to the original wood stock look with iron sights.
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby kowalzekc on Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:49 pm

Scratch wrote:I had a scope on my MN. I used one of those mounts that relpaced the rear sight. It was OK, but you needed a scope with a long eye releif. The bonus was you didn't need a bent bolt. I took it and the ATI stock off because I went back to the original wood stock look with iron sights.

Was to scope mounted to the side or inline with the top of the barrel? Also, where can I find the mounting to replace the rear sights?
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby White Horseradish on Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:08 pm

grousemaster wrote:what kind of accuracy can be had with a Mosin? I've always been kinda curious


Given that "a Mosin" covers several variants of rifles made between 1895 and 1955 in several countries, with different barrel lengths, and in condition ranging from "a fly never landed on it" to "tomato stake", that is a rather hard to answer question.

An unissued Finn M39 is one thing. Wartime M91/30 is quite another. Both are Mosins. AV, the impossible to find match-grade Mosin, is even better than M39.

Average 91/30 with average surplus ammo shoots minute of Nazi. :)

As far as scopes, the original or replica Kochetov side mount requires a fair amount of skill to attach correctly. Scout mounts are way easier.

Darrel's scout mounts are excellent: http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsfo ... forums/116

Mounts to avoid:
The really cheap aluminum Chinese mounts from eBay. The screws are thin and weak and they don't hold zero well. It's only $10, but it's a complete waste.

The AK-style rails. The adaptation to the Mosin receiver is cludgy, the scope mounts that fit them are almost always too tall and often made of crappy metal.

The ATI mount. The mount itself can be attached somewhat reliably, provided you are very careful with it afterwards. It's fairly easy to bend or break off if you drop the rifle. The bolt handle they sell with it is junk. It's been known to snap off.
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby Scratch on Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:10 pm

kowalzekc wrote:
Scratch wrote:I had a scope on my MN. I used one of those mounts that relpaced the rear sight. It was OK, but you needed a scope with a long eye releif. The bonus was you didn't need a bent bolt. I took it and the ATI stock off because I went back to the original wood stock look with iron sights.

Was to scope mounted to the side or inline with the top of the barrel? Also, where can I find the mounting to replace the rear sights?


It was in line with the top of the barrel, where a normal scope goes, just right where the rear sight is. I got mine used but this is kind of what it looked like.

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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby Sammichman on Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:16 pm

Heres my Izzy with a scout mont and a BSA 2x7
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby samginko on Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:12 pm

I did one for my dad couple of years ago. It was a kit from amazon for $40. Kit had a new bolt end and the mount. You had to drill and tap the mount on to the receiver and cut the handle of the bolt off. You had to drill tap and attach the new handle, finally you had to drill out a notch on the stock for the new angled bolt handle.

Yep, I paid Fred at the woodbury gander to do the work. Waited two months, but the first shot was only 3" away at 25yds and the work was top notch.
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby craig61a on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:02 pm

I did put a PE mount and scope on my M39 and I love it.
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby Stradawhovious on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:04 pm

kowalzekc wrote:Has anyone put a scope on a mosin nagant? If so, did you do a offest mount the scope to avoid the bolt handle or did you get the bolt handle mounted at an angle?



For your reading enjoyment. http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26607&p=306055

ETA, Mounting a scope to the rear sight makes for a really really long eye relief. Thats why I chose the method in the link.
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Re: Putting a scope on a mosin nagant?

Postby Stradawhovious on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:09 pm

grousemaster wrote:what kind of accuracy can be had with a Mosin? I've always been kinda curious


With my '26 Hex Izzy I can religiously bang an 8" gong at 100 yds with irons.... And I'm not that good of a shot. This leads me to believe that if you have a good specimin, and a decent scope you could easily expect Minute of deer accuracy. Most folks claim 2-3" groups at 100 yds with a good Mosin.
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