Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby grousemaster on Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:40 am

Heffay wrote:
tman wrote:
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My gun will never defend an anti-gunner, sorry they're on their own.



Good grief.


Is he for real? I almost think he's trying to be a parody of himself.


lol, I know. It makes me wonder....I'm going to make a top ten list for XDM45 one liners....
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby Heffay on Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:46 am

grousemaster wrote:lol, I know. It makes me wonder....I'm gong to make a top ten list for XDM45 one liners....


Well, that comment should DEFINITELY make the list. The 400 meter for rifle one is in the running for the top 3 as well.
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby Hmac on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:04 am

XDM45 wrote:My gun will never defend an anti-gunner, sorry they're on their own.


Yikes!

Please get off our side.
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby Ron Burgundy on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:27 am

You guys need to be a little more subtle so we can keep him & his comments around. I'd hate to see him all but disappear like Justaguy.
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby XDM45 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:50 am

Hmac wrote:
XDM45 wrote:My gun will never defend an anti-gunner, sorry they're on their own.


Yikes!

Please get off our side.


Why should I be responsible for another person's life if they are unwilling to be responsible for it themselves? Do you go around defending the World? It's one thing to protect your family, and hopefully they aren't anti-gun, but in such case, of course, you still defend them, they're family. A lot of my family are gun owners, have carry permits and are taking responsibility for their own lives.

Do you go defend Joe Shmoe who doesn't own a gun and his house gets robbed or he's in the process of getting mugged on the street? If you saw Heather whats-her-face getting robbed, you'd jump in, draw, and defend her eh? Good for you. I wouldn't.

Also, the feeling is mutual, there's some trolls here I don't want on my side either, such is life.
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby XDM45 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:58 am

Ron Burgundy wrote:You guys need to be a little more subtle so we can keep him & his comments around. I'd hate to see him all but disappear like Justaguy.


I am the drug of choice for some I guess.
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby Hmac on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:03 am

XDM45 wrote:Do you go defend Joe Shmoe who doesn't own a gun and his house gets robbed or he's in the process of getting mugged on the street? If you saw Heather whats-her-face getting robbed, you'd jump in, draw, and defend her eh?


Of course I would use lethal force if necessary to defend my life or the life of another. I wouldn't stop and ask their politics before doing so.
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Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby xd ED on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:06 am

Hmac wrote:
XDM45 wrote:Do you go defend Joe Shmoe who doesn't own a gun and his house gets robbed or he's in the process of getting mugged on the street? If you saw Heather whats-her-face getting robbed, you'd jump in, draw, and defend her eh?


Of course I would use lethal force if necessary to defend my life or the life of another. I wouldn't stop and ask their politics before doing so.


I draw the line at those who open carry
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby XDM45 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:07 am

xd ED wrote:
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XDM45 wrote:Do you go defend Joe Shmoe who doesn't own a gun and his house gets robbed or he's in the process of getting mugged on the street? If you saw Heather whats-her-face getting robbed, you'd jump in, draw, and defend her eh?


Of course I would use lethal force if necessary to defend my life or the life of another. I wouldn't stop and ask their politics before doing so.


I draw the line at those who open carry


That's ok. We can defend ourselves. No help needed.
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby Ron Burgundy on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:10 am

XDM45 wrote:I am the drug of choice for some I guess.

Ah don't let the bastards get ya down. This is teh Internetz where one persons opinion is more better than the next person's
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby optimusglen on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:15 am

By defending someone who is anti-gun, you can possibly show them the benefits of the 2nd amendment.

By not defending someone who is anti-gun, you fuel others who are anti-gun.
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby XDM45 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:15 am

Ron Burgundy wrote:
XDM45 wrote:I am the drug of choice for some I guess.

Ah don't let the bastards get ya down. This is teh Internetz where one persons opinion is more better than the next person's


Amen!!

I don't let things get to me. Life is easier that way.
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby XDM45 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:25 am

optimusglen wrote:By defending someone who is anti-gun, you can possibly show them the benefits of the 2nd amendment.

By not defending someone who is anti-gun, you fuel others who are anti-gun.


...and you can also open yourself up to be a test case, suffer litigation of both criminal and civil courts, etc. It's just not worth it to me to risk that unless it's myself or my family. You could catch some pedo with a kid in the act and pop him in the head and the media would STILL vilify you. It's sad, but we live in a litigious society and what's legal isn't always just; and what's just isn't always legal.

There's also the fact that even if you don't go to prison, don't have any criminal or civil charges against you, even if the media didn't portray you as a monster, even if everyone didn't look at you funny or not hire you, or any of the negatives that go along with pulling that trigger; you're still a different person after the fact and there's no escaping that. It changes you when you take a life. I'm just not willing to take that on for someone that isn't myself or immediate family. I'm just being honest about it. I certainly wouldn't expect you or anyone else to defend me either, so that's fair.

I do believe that people need to be responsible for themselves in all areas, not just with protecting their life, but with money/finances/investing, driving, everything in every area. It's not Heather's (or anyone else's) politics which would prevent me from defending them, but rather the things above. Anti-gun people are basically saying "We are sheep!! Come fleece us!" Same as that person who posts on facebook "Like omfg. We're going to Cancun for 2 weeks!!" only to come home and find their house robbed. They set themselves up to be victims. They don't invite it, but they don't do anything to stop or prevent it either.

If someone isn't going to take responsibility for their own life, why should I? (Family is the exception to the rule - but I'm working on getting as many of them armed and trained as well.)
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby grousemaster on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:38 am

XDM45 wrote:
Ron Burgundy wrote:
XDM45 wrote:I am the drug of choice for some I guess.

Ah don't let the bastards get ya down. This is teh Internetz where one persons opinion is more better than the next person's


Amen!!

I don't let things get to me. Life is easier that way.



Hence, the multi paragraph explanations....
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Re: Heather Martens = Lobbyist for HF241

Postby XDM45 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:44 am

grousemaster wrote:Hence, the multi paragraph explanations....


Explaining one's reasoning or opinion does not equate to letting things get to me.
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