Keith Ellison is a angry man

[St. Olaf]

More charitable? Not proven that I know of....you have proof?

By golly, there was RESEARCH!


Nick Kristof's Column

This holiday season is a time to examine who’s been naughty and who’s been nice, but I’m unhappy with my findings. The problem is this: We liberals are personally stingy.
Liberals show tremendous compassion in pushing for generous government spending to help the neediest people at home and abroad. Yet when it comes to individual contributions to charitable causes, liberals are cheapskates.

The original source for the column

We all know we should give to charity, but who really does? In his controversial study of America’s giving habits, Arthur C. Brooks shatters stereotypes about charity in America-including the myth that the political Left is more compassionate than the Right. Brooks, a preeminent public policy expert, spent years researching giving trends in America, and even he was surprised by what he found. In Who Really Cares, he identifies the forces behind American charity: strong families, church attendance, earning one’s own income (as opposed to receiving welfare), and the belief that individuals-not government-offer the best solution to social ills. But beyond just showing us who the givers and non-givers in America really are today, Brooks shows that giving is crucial to our economic prosperity, as well as to our happiness, health, and our ability to govern ourselves as a free people.

Ah, the tired old Brooks bulldoodle. Unfortunately, Brooks (a Radical Right-Wing Libertarian) skewed his survey in many ways.

Debunked here: http://getonpar.wordpress.com/

[CIBOIF]

Your anger and bitterness make it sound like you're the one with the problems, but I guess that would go along with being a Tea Party follower.

lol! You can't make this **** up!

You were never in the military and you had no career (other than using your votes to steal from others)!!!!


Aren't you going to discredit the study TMAN posted? I'm sure there's a republican involved in the study somewhere


Shouldn't be too much longer before you post a picture of your discharge papers and a photo copy of your bank account balance.

WINNING

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Grousemaster: Awesome job taking this guy to task! Nothing he offered was anything but petty distain, jealously, class warfare, hate, and bigotry.

[MNHandK]

That's right.. We don't care about the poor, elderly, or children..

You already got yours? Great. Stop advocating the taking from everyone else.

Anger? I get angry when someone cuts me off. Politics don't anger me. Though I do wish for simpler times when each man recieved according to what he contributed. Not what someone else thought they deserved by some percieved wrong someone else or society has done to them.

My guess if that your time in the service was spent in the rear with the gear. God.. Government forbid you actually be I harms way. Probably signed up for the freebies and bit he'd when you had to work for them.

[St. Olaf]

St. olaf are you serious? The present administration has thrown away ALL our civil rights They are KILLING Americans without trails .They are arming Federal agents by the thousand in every department from Agriculture on down. They are giving guns and money to gangs and drug dealers and Muslim fighters all around the world. Open your eyes before it is to late!!1
Rmfcasey

That was written as a satire of the tinfoil hatters, right?

If not, name the Americans that have been killed by the government, for starters.

[NMRMN]

If not, name the Americans that have been killed by the government, for starters.

:flag:

How about children killed by Obama's drones?

http://www.policymic.com/articles/24164 ... -and-yemen

[St. Olaf]

That's right.. We don't care about the poor, elderly, or children..

You already got yours? Great. Stop advocating the taking from everyone else.

Anger? I get angry when someone cuts me off. Politics don't anger me. Though I do wish for simpler times when each man recieved according to what he contributed. Not what someone else thought they deserved by some percieved wrong someone else or society has done to them.

My guess if that your time in the service was spent in the rear with the gear. God.. Government forbid you actually be I harms way. Probably signed up for the freebies and bit he'd when you had to work for them.

If politics don't anger you, why do you sound so bitter?

And when did I advocate "taking from everyone else." (?)

I always and only advocate making the rich pay their fair share.

As angry as you are and the way you distort the facts, you won't have much to contribute here, I can tell.

[Jreinan01]

I'm in the catbird seat. I can do whatever I wish and buy pretty much whatever I want.

If you can buy anything you want then surely you have more than you need. What is your address I can be there ASAP with a truck to redistribute your stuff to those less fortunate. I'm not joking, lets do this...put your money ad stuff where your mouth is, I will administrate selling your extra stuff on eBay and Craigslist and even a rummage sale. I will do it completely at no charge, in fact i will rent the truck and pay fuel and any travel expenses out of my own pocket. With the proceeds of those sales WE will donate to ten charities... By WE I mean the members of this board as a collective. I will not sell all of your stuff, just what you don't "need"...now of course that "need" won't be determined by you, it once again will be determined by another collective.
So seriously, no joking, lets get this done...PM me your address and me and some guys will show up with a truck

[MNHandK]

That's right.. We don't care about the poor, elderly, or children..

You already got yours? Great. Stop advocating the taking from everyone else.

Anger? I get angry when someone cuts me off. Politics don't anger me. Though I do wish for simpler times when each man recieved according to what he contributed. Not what someone else thought they deserved by some percieved wrong someone else or society has done to them.

My guess if that your time in the service was spent in the rear with the gear. God.. Government forbid you actually be I harms way. Probably signed up for the freebies and bit he'd when you had to work for them.

If politics don't anger you, why do you sound so bitter?

And when did I advocate "taking from everyone else." (?)

I always and only advocate making the rich pay their fair share.

As angry as you are and the way you distort the facts, you won't have much to contribute here, I can tell.

You can hear me? This Internet thing is amazing.

[St. Olaf]

If not, name the Americans that have been killed by the government, for starters.

How about children killed by Obama's drones?

http://www.policymic.com/articles/24164 ... -and-yemen

That's sad, but the original statement was about Americans killed by the government.

Yet ANOTHER statement that can't be backed up?

[NMRMN]

I'm in the catbird seat. I can do whatever I wish and buy pretty much whatever I want.

If you can buy anything you want then surely you have more than you need. What is your address I can be there ASAP with a truck to redistribute your stuff to those less fortunate. I'm not joking, lets do this...put your money ad stuff where your mouth is, I will administrate selling your extra stuff on eBay and Craigslist and even a rummage sale. I will do it completely at no charge, in fact i will rent the truck and pay fuel and any travel expenses out of my own pocket. With the proceeds of those sales WE will donate to ten charities... By WE I mean the members of this board as a collective. I will not sell all of your stuff, just what you don't "need"...now of course that "need" won't be determined by you, it once again will be determined by another collective.
So seriously, no joking, lets get this done...PM me your address and me and some guys will show up with a truck

To be "fair" you should really charge for the truck and your time.

[St. Olaf]

I'm in the catbird seat. I can do whatever I wish and buy pretty much whatever I want.

If you can buy anything you want then surely you have more than you need. What is your address I can be there ASAP with a truck to redistribute your stuff to those less fortunate. I'm not joking, lets do this...put your money ad stuff where your mouth is, I will administrate selling your extra stuff on eBay and Craigslist and even a rummage sale. I will do it completely at no charge, in fact i will rent the truck and pay fuel and any travel expenses out of my own pocket. With the proceeds of those sales WE will donate to ten charities... By WE I mean the members of this board as a collective. I will not sell all of your stuff, just what you don't "need"...now of course that "need" won't be determined by you, it once again will be determined by another collective.
So seriously, no joking, lets get this done...PM me your address and me and some guys will show up with a truck

Seriously, that's a Fox News argument to protect the rich folks they serve.

But you ARE funny.

[Jreinan01]

Nope I don't want a penny...I'm charitable

[NMRMN]

If not, name the Americans that have been killed by the government, for starters.

:flag:

How about children killed by Obama's drones?

http://www.policymic.com/articles/24164 ... -and-yemen

That's sad, but the original statement was about Americans killed by the government.

Yet ANOTHER statement that can't be backed up?

:mrgreen:

Im not so sure that list is disputed. Regardless, the lives of Pakistani and Yemeni children are hardly worth less than the lives of our children, or are they?

PS

Just wait...

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/congress/item/14651-lawyers-testify-before-house-committee-in-favor-of-targeted-killings-of-americans

[St. Olaf]

This is interesting.
I'm retired.
I went to school on the G.I. Bill.
I have three retirement checks coming in (Social Security, Military and State) cheap dental insurance, plus free health insurance through Tri-Care and Medicare, plus investments that bring in an amount nearly equal to the dollar value of all that combined.
I'm in the catbird seat. I can do whatever I wish and buy pretty much whatever I want.
I earned and paid for every bit of it with a long, smart and successful career of hard work of over forty years.
I don't need anything from society. I've already got mine.
Your anger and bitterness make it sound like you're the one with the problems, but I guess that would go along with being a Tea Party follower.
Maybe if you'd start voting right and caring about the poor, the elderly, the vulnerable, the kids who deserve a good education and health care........you'd get some good Karma, too.
:cogitate:

Sounds like you have a lot of skin in the game with medicare/Social security and government pension. You know, the generation paying for your checks are not going to have the same luxury...

Well, first of all, I paid for my checks with money I paid into Social Security for forty years.

Second, if the Tea Party had their way, the next generation would get NOTHING--but the Tea Party will fail and Social Security will be there for all.

[NMRMN]

By the way, it is the anniversary of Waco.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/310880-1

How many children and adults were killed there?