WTB: 40S&W special Die

[JohnGageMN]

Yet another reason I'm glad I didn't buy a Glock...

[FJ540]

Yet another reason I'm glad I didn't buy a Glock...

Doug's trying to fix the problem of other's buying them.

[Seismic Sam]

Well, it keeps a lot of my distant relatives in Austria employed grinding out all the Glock chambers, and it helps to be a troll with fireproof fingers that are used to holding n00bs over a open fire, becausee then you can just hold the barrel with your bare fingers as you Dremel the crap out of the chamber!!

[engnerdan]

Oh, and BTW, the picture of the cross section of the horrible Glock bulge is AFTER a full length resize with a normal die, and that's the leftover rim you normally see if you just use a FL die to try and resize out the assymmetric bulge from a Glock. With the Redding G-Rx die this doesn't happen 99%+ of the time.

The guy who posted the pictures made no mention of that being the case. He said the last picture I posted was post Lee bulge die and then resizing. Which is the order you would do this in. From what I read that first bulge picture is exactly how it came out of the gun.

[Seismic Sam]

Oh, and BTW, the picture of the cross section of the horrible Glock bulge is AFTER a full length resize with a normal die, and that's the leftover rim you normally see if you just use a FL die to try and resize out the assymmetric bulge from a Glock. With the Redding G-Rx die this doesn't happen 99%+ of the time.

The guy who posted the pictures made no mention of that being the case. He said the last picture I posted was post Lee bulge die and then resizing. Which is the order you would do this in. From what I read that first bulge picture is exactly how it came out of the gun.

That's not a traditional Glock bulge. THIS is a traditional Glock bulge:



What's shown is either the ridge after a normal resize die, or I think much more likely, this is a bulged case from a near kaboom. The sharply defined ridge is the giveaway for one of the two.



Note the crack at the base of the case indicating near catastrophic failure



Checked the website reference, and this is definitely a near kaboom, as noted in the thread. Must be a newer Gen Glock barrel that wasn't Dremeled out as much by my distant cousins. A normal resize of a traditional Glock bulge can produce nearly as much of a shoulder if the case is crudded up and goes into the die hard, and the case can't move to try and self-center itself.

[BigDog58]

Yes, I want this posted here so I can receive info from others without abusing MARKETPLACE rules.

I want/need to buy a 40S&W die that allows complete push tru capability.
Is there a carbide die available specifically for this?
Or do I modify a normal carbide die to allow this?

I can make the Pusher which will allow case to be pushed thru base first.
IF I put a de-capping pin in pusher and carefully set case flash hole on pin, would sizing allow sufficient force to allow de-capping before case pushes thru die?

OK - blast away ........................................................................................................

Doug, I use the Lee Debulging Kit on the 40's I've loaded and it works great. It is used with the Factory Crimp Die and reiszes the entire case all the way to the rim. You are welcome to use mine for as long as you need as I don't see me reloading and 40's in the near future. If you want to use it give me a call and we can arrange for me to get it to you ASAP. It will do exactly what you are looking for and works great. I use it with a little Lee C Press that was given to me and you are welcome to the whole setup if you like. You've helped me so much in the past and hopefully this might help you just a little.

Jim

[crbutler]

All I can offer is my experience on it-

Started out using .40/10mm Dillon dies. If I used brass from my Gen 2 Glock 22, my SVI and STI would intermittently (1every 20-40 shots) fail to go into battery and rarely would be so tight I needed to beat on the slide to get it open.

Tried the factory crimp die in this process. Cut down the FTF's by a little, but not enough to matter. My records are not real complete on this, but I threw the thing away after sending it back and they told me it was in spec, so I don't think the factory crimp die is worth much for me.

I have used a push through die a few times-

It does fully resize the case, but requires extra step- you need to decap as a separate stage. I typically rant them through my dillon equipment to decap (to use the case feeder) then ran them through the push through resizer (a friend owned the thing, I think it was a redding) then ran it through the press again (including resize as it was no extra work) to load it. Seemed to take for-effin-ever to reload .40, which was for IPSC shooting, thus high volume.

Ammo treated this was had no failures. However, the sample size was only 1000 rounds.

Also had a friend who had access to a compressed air resizer who did 5,000 rounds for me. That whole lot had 2 FTF's, but they seemed like not the guppy belly problem. He wanted too much $$$, and was not giving me my own brass back, so after getting 5% steel cased stuff back, this was not an option until I win the lotto.

I then brought a Casepro roller sizer. This had me use the dillon casefeeder to run it through the case pro, then I would run it through the press to load, including resize (to resize the case neck and decap). Somewhat slower than the original dump it in and go, but dramatically faster than the push through.

Maybe one or 2 failures per 1000. Some of these were guppied brass.

About this time frame I began to look on Glock owners as being incestuous relatives of Lucifer.

Total, I have probably 50,000 rounds through this system.


Finally, I brought the EGW Lee undersized die.

Back to throw the case in the feeder and go. Very fast.

No failures to feed. There are a few cases that are so bloated that they don't work, but they are obvious by feel and visual inspection.

Maybe 20,000 rounds through this way.

My deep dislike of Glocks is a bit moderated now.

At this point, I still have the case pro, and use it to refurbish tired .38 Super/9x25/.357 Sig/.400 Corbon brass. I don't see the marginal value for it when I can use the .40S&W with the undersized die. 9mm is so cheap that I just sell it for scrap when it gets to the point that I would use the case pro on it. 9x23 is so thick in the web that it does not work well with the case pro- too much effort to work it.

If I was manufacturing, I would get a compressed air sizing system, but otherwise, the U die works.

[OldmanFCSA]

Thanks everyone!

I don't shoot pistols that much any more (I'm a lousy shot with a pistol), but I do require ALL of my ammo to work properly. When I had one round lock up my gun at the range, it pissed me off that I missed something in the loading process. Bear in mind, these 40S&W were loaded 03Nov2005 according to my records and were some of my first 40S&W reloads using BlueDot powder. I won't use Blue Dot again for other reasons.

Again, Thank you everyone, and SSam for the offer of using your die setup.

OldmamFCSA

[rugersol]

Finally, I brought the EGW Lee undersized die.

Back to throw the case in the feeder and go. Very fast.

No failures to feed.

Ya ... considering, once installed, there's ZERO change in how ya load (no extra steps ... no nothing!) ... particularly on a progressive ... and the reviews ... I really can't figure people's apprehension to this thing?! ... it truly is the "silver bullet" of reloadin' .40's! I 'spose that's part of the problem?! ... some folks figure it's jest "too good to be true"!

It's funny ... 'tween 9mm, .45, and .40's, .40's were always the worst! ... now, I look forward to loadin' .40 ... NEVER a "bad" piece of brass!

[JohnGageMN]

About this time frame I began to look on Glock owners as being incestuous relatives of Lucifer.

Thank you for that, I just spit coffee all over my desk!

[Rodentman]

The carbide GRX die comes with this nice push-thru brass holder. I run all my 357 sign and .40 brass thru this die. I don't use Glock factory barrells anymore, but I still throw in this extra step. Sometimes for 10mm too.