letter passed on about ammunition

[dbtshot]

This letter was sent to me today from a friend and fellow shooter. In my opinion I dont think the the government has this much control over the private sector. I would like to hear from other shooters on the information below. Read below. For what it’s worth, I have had an extremely hard time finding reloading supplies in the last 6 months. Everyone is “out of stock”. Not sure what is going on but something doesn’t seem right.




From a fellow shooter:

You may not know this but George Soros owns most of the ammunition manufacturing companies and many arms manufacturers as well. He's selling ONLY to the government right now, per White House & Department of Homeland Security orders. My son works for ATK, who owns just about all the rest of the ammunition companies that Soros doesn't own. He tells me that ATK has been ordered by the federal government to curtail sales of ammunition, primers and powder to the retail market. What you see currently on the shelves is old stock and what's left in the warehouses since the CT shootings and new stock will NOT be appearing anytime soon. ATK and Soros' companies have more than enough government contracts to keep them going for years to come. Like Soros' companies, ATK is a huge defense contractor and they've been told to sell ONLY to the DOD, TSA, FBI, DHS and local/federal law enforcement agencies. This is VERY scary and VERY ominous for what's coming down the pike in the future.

My son has seen the proposed pricing schedule for Federal, CCI, Hornady, Remington, Winchester and several other ammunition manufacturer's lines of ammunition, components, reloading equipment (ATK owns Outers, RCBS, Hoppe and a host of others) and he's flabbergasted! As an example, when the sales of .22 LR bulk ammo resumes, the pricing will be over $50.00 for a 535-round Value Pak! That's nearly a dime-a-shot!! They're also going to raise the prices by 300 - 400% on dies, presses, powder measures and the like. He's in management there at ATK in Salt Lake City and they're NOT happy with it at all! They firmly believe this will basically shut-down the civilian market while leaving the government as the only purchaser of their products.
He saw the government pricing for the centerfire ammunition they've been stockpiling and their prices have actually dropped from a year ago so the feds are buying this stuff REAL cheap while we can't even get our hands on it, at all!

Something I've always said since in 2008 is that, even if they can't actually ban the weapons themselves, the government will make it nearly impossible for us civilians to feed them with ammo, reloading components and the like.

The WH doesn't HAVE to actually ban the guns, as Biden said in one of his many faux pas, foot-in-the-mouth, Freudian slip speeches he's famous for making. " All we have to do is to make it too expensive to use them and the public will eventually give them back to us if we offer an attractive price for these weapons".

What's an "attractive price" - a $10.00 Walmart gift card for a $3,000.00 custom hunting rifle? Those were his EXACT words in one of the speeches he gave to the freshman congressmen last week! Remember, Biden was one of the architects of the Clinton gun ban of years ago. I think he's as dangerous to the Second Amendment as Obama is, maybe more so, because he's so stupid and doesn't know the muzzle of a gun from the butt.

Feel free to pass this on so gun owners will be aware of what we're up against. I doubt the NRA can do anything about it, IMHO. La Pierre can get on all the talk shows he's invited to and cry the blues about the assault weapons laws that are forthcoming from the WH but the real crux of the matter will be whether or not we'll ever be able to purchase ammunition (at all) or, if we can, what we'll be paying for it.

As an aside, here, I deal a LOT with Midsouth Shooters Supply for my reloading components. Two weeks ago I ordered 500 cases each of .45 Casull, .44 Magnum, .357 Magnum and 9mm Parabellum. I was told everything I had ordered was out-of-stock and no in-stock delivery date was being forecast. They wouldn't even accept a back order for this stuff! Think the government isn't manipulating it?


Think again, my friend...

[JP5EDC]

I sure hope that's BS....

[CarRacer]

Smells like an email chain letter. I'm guessing it is related to the rumor that Soros is involved with the Freedom Group, which was debunked by the NRA.

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2011/10/internet-rumors-about-cerberus,-freedom.aspx?s=cerberus&st=&ps=

"Don't believe everything you read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln

[Tronster]

I doubt the government has that much power to tell a private company who they can and cannot sell to. I'd also be curious to see if there are any manufacturing date codes on what little ammo is trickling in.

It's probably a case of only X number of people bothered to buy Y amount of ammo each month. So the plants only made Y amount each month.
Now it's panic time and XYZ number of people and their buddies and uncles are buying Y to the power of Z amount anytime they see it. But the plants can only ramp up to XY amount per month.

[maddhunter]

It would seem to me that there would have to be some serious issues going on somewhere that the feds could mandate who private industries could sell their wares to. I haven' t read about any "declared wars" or the country being in a state of marshall law. Then again maybe they just haven't told us yet!!!!!!!!!

[justinvan]

Not calling you a liar.... but I am calling BS! I hope I am not being to optimistic but I just can not see it. Price increases are coming and I dont see that changing, but I dont think I am buying what the writer of this letter is trying to sell the readers.

[grousemaster]

Soros' own's most ammo/arms mfg's? Really? If Glenn Beck can confirm, I'll believe....

[AgAuTHORITY]

This is great, "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln

I'm stealing it

Ag

[Chevydude]

Sounds like ¥€#*^>ing B. S. to me.

[CarRacer]

This is great, "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln

I'm stealing it

Ag

It's not mine. I've read it online a bunch before and found it funny.

[jshuberg]

Sounds like another April fools joke to me.

[Glenn_S]

FALSE!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/freedom.asp

[photogpat]

Jeez, I thought the Soros rumors were LONG OVER...

This letter is funny on so many counts.

[JJ]

And the folks spreading these chain emails are the ones driving the hoarding.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

[MNGunner]

Any publicly owned company (has shares of stock outstanding) intentionally limiting their profits would open themselves up for lawsuits from investors.
Obama, in spite of possibly looking like the devil, is not hoarding your 22LR.
Once supply catches up with demand, ammo will go on sale.

Edit: Acutally, come to think of it, thanks to Fleet Farm, I have purhcased the following on sale during the past 3 months: .223, 22LR, and I also belive the 5.45x39 and 9mm were on sale, but I am not 101% sure about those two. I think that those sales happened because the sales ads are printed in advance.