Is the panic over?

[tluchsinger]

if the resellers want to wait weeks to get the ammo so be it...all I know is i want mine and not spend 50.00 for some thing i can get for 18.99 I have time on my side so i will be paticent and wait for my order to come in, Im not in any hury to get it soon so Im ok with that, its not like i shoot all day every day, So I can wait.

[morepower02]

I can almost guarantee you that the resellers/hoarders are not taking into account their time and gas they spend chasing after ammo. I doubt they are actually making all that much money, if any.

I suppose if they are unemployed or work for minimum wage they MIGHT make a little bit of money, but it's going to be very little if anything at all. Not enough ROI for time and money.

That's the only thing I can think of on the resellers. A person would have to be unemployed to drive around and purchase to resell. For the price of my time I would be better served paying .60 or more a round for .45 target. If you factor the price of gas/diesel in it's insane.

[Hoot]

I can almost guarantee you that the resellers/hoarders are not taking into account their time and gas they spend chasing after ammo. I doubt they are actually making all that much money, if any.

I suppose if they are unemployed or work for minimum wage they MIGHT make a little bit of money, but it's going to be very little if anything at all. Not enough ROI for time and money.

That's the only thing I can think of on the resellers. A person would have to be unemployed to drive around and purchase to resell. For the price of my time I would be better served paying .60 or more a round for .45 target. If you factor the price of gas/diesel in it's insane.

I'm thinking retired, which I guess is unemployed. The retired folks I know are always looking for something to do. They'll drive across town just to go to a luncheon with friends. If they can supplement their SS under the radar, or their ransacked retirement plan, that's time well spent. Probably pays better than whittling fishing lures and they can take the Mrs with them and double their take.

Hoot

[morepower02]

Sounds possible also.

[OldmanFCSA]

TOO BAD NOBODY LIKES QUALITY RELOADS............



SORRY FOR YOU = I'VE GOT PLENTY TO SHOOT.

[Hoot]

TOO BAD NOBODY LIKES QUALITY RELOADS............



SORRY FOR YOU = I'VE GOT PLENTY TO SHOOT.

You only need to look at the equal lack of availability of reloading components to understand just how many people like quality reloads. The last time I shot any commercial ammo aside from rimfire was a couple of years ago, when I received two boxes to test and write up. The problem is, most of the companies who make reloading components also make ammunition. When they can't produce enough reloading components to satisfy their ammunition manufacturing side, they shut off the supply stream for reloaders. Also, the reloading component/ammunition manufacturers caught on to the fact that they were losing market share of their more lucrative ammunition side to those reloaders and just a few years ago, they started ratcheting up the price of those components to make up for it. Forget the excuse of the higher cost of metals. They didn't go up nearly as much as reflected in the higher prices for bullets and brass. Pretty much the same charge what the market will bear, business model.

Hoot

[FJ540]

There's a colt lightweight LE6920 on the wall at Bill's South with a FF barrel for $950. I'm gonna say the black rifles aren't overly scarce anymore.

[XDM45]

Well, reloads may be quality, but I have some issues with them:

1) I KNOW my new brass casing in my new ammo hasn't been used, and when it is, it will be used once by me, but with reloads, I don't have any idea how many times the same casing has been used.

2) Many people who reload use non-jacket bullets because it's cheaper, and I don't want that much lead mess in my gun. (Not sure how many people use jacketed bullets when they reload, but my guess is not many.)

3) As for the cost of reloading per round, yeah it's generally cheaper than new rounds are; of course I could see it costing the same or more depending on components used as far as quality and price paid, even so, what about the cost of your time to reload? Do people factor that in? What is YOUR time per hour worth? At some point, it will cost you more money to reload than to just buy new when you figure in your time per hour.

4) It's not me loading it. I know I'm not reloading new rounds either, but the ammo companies have quality control, consistency, insurance in case someone sues their butt off, etc. If any kind of legal case was ever brought against them, they have the cash whereas Uncle Bob loading in his basement does not. I know you put your trust in someone else whether they are reloading it for you, or if you're buying new rounds, but I'd rather put my trust in the ammo company.

5) It's my gun. That trumps all other things above. My gun. No reloads.

Comparatively speaking, most people don't load their own bullets,they buy new, just like most people don't roll their own cigarettes when they can buy packs, or most people compile their own operating system's kernel when they can run just use a pre-made one instead, even though when you do something yourself, get more control over it.

[FJ540]

Well, reloads may be quality, but I have some issues with them:

1) I KNOW my new brass casing in my new ammo hasn't been used, and when it is, it will be used once by me, but with reloads, I don't have any idea how many times the same casing has been used.

2) Many people who reload use non-jacket bullets because it's cheaper, and I don't want that much lead mess in my gun. (Not sure how many people use jacketed bullets when they reload, but my guess is not many.)
3) As for the cost of reloading per round, yeah it's generally cheaper than new rounds are; of course I could see it costing the same or more depending on components used as far as quality and price paid, even so, what about the cost of your time to reload? Do people factor that in? What is YOUR time per hour worth? At some point, it will cost you more money to reload than to just buy new when you figure in your time per hour.

4) It's not me loading it. I know I'm not reloading new rounds either, but the ammo companies have quality control, consistency, insurance in case someone sues their butt off, etc. If any kind of legal case was ever brought against them, they have the cash whereas Uncle Bob loading in his basement does not. I know you put your trust in someone else whether they are reloading it for you, or if you're buying new rounds, but I'd rather put my trust in the ammo company.

5) It's my gun. That trumps all other things above. My gun. No reloads.

Comparatively speaking, most people don't load their own bullets,they buy new, just like most people don't roll their own cigarettes when they can buy packs, or most people compile their own operating system's kernel when they can run just use a pre-made one instead, even though when you do something yourself, get more control over it.

You have no idea about reloading. Might want to gather some more info before making assumptions.

[grousemaster]

There's a colt lightweight LE6920 on the wall at Bill's South with a FF barrel for $950. I'm gonna say the black rifles aren't overly scarce anymore.

6920, or 6900? The 6900's are junky

[FJ540]

I'm near positive the model number was 6920, but I also only had about 3 hours sleep yesterday. Maybe someone goofed on pricing it?

The pony was in a rectangular box in the roll mark. Granted, it's been a long time since I looked at a colt, but that was new to me.

[grousemaster]

I'm near positive the model number was 6920, but I also only had about 3 hours sleep yesterday. Maybe someone goofed on pricing it?

The pony was in a rectangular box in the roll mark. Granted, it's been a long time since I looked at a colt, but that was new to me.

If it was factory new with the free float barrel, it's probably the 6900.....no forward assist either? I think another company makes these for Colt. No lined barrel either....I saw some of these at Bills last week to....

[FJ540]

I didn't notice. I was just checking tags for the most part.

[grousemaster]

I didn't notice. I was just checking tags for the most part.

Right on....I'm only asking because that would be a hell of a deal otherwise, right around dealer cost....

[XDM45]

Well, reloads may be quality, but I have some issues with them:

1) I KNOW my new brass casing in my new ammo hasn't been used, and when it is, it will be used once by me, but with reloads, I don't have any idea how many times the same casing has been used.

2) Many people who reload use non-jacket bullets because it's cheaper, and I don't want that much lead mess in my gun. (Not sure how many people use jacketed bullets when they reload, but my guess is not many.)
3) As for the cost of reloading per round, yeah it's generally cheaper than new rounds are; of course I could see it costing the same or more depending on components used as far as quality and price paid, even so, what about the cost of your time to reload? Do people factor that in? What is YOUR time per hour worth? At some point, it will cost you more money to reload than to just buy new when you figure in your time per hour.

4) It's not me loading it. I know I'm not reloading new rounds either, but the ammo companies have quality control, consistency, insurance in case someone sues their butt off, etc. If any kind of legal case was ever brought against them, they have the cash whereas Uncle Bob loading in his basement does not. I know you put your trust in someone else whether they are reloading it for you, or if you're buying new rounds, but I'd rather put my trust in the ammo company.

5) It's my gun. That trumps all other things above. My gun. No reloads.

Comparatively speaking, most people don't load their own bullets,they buy new, just like most people don't roll their own cigarettes when they can buy packs, or most people compile their own operating system's kernel when they can run just use a pre-made one instead, even though when you do something yourself, get more control over it.

You have no idea about reloading. Might want to gather some more info before making assumptions.

#5 still applies.