Conceal Carry classes low income

[wasfuzz]

I offered to come to her and teach a class for her for free, she just has to find 5 folks willing to pay for their class at $65.00 a person. Lets see if she can find some folks for a class!

[FJ540]

So, it occurs to me, we need something Like a Northern Poverty Law Center to sponsor folks through the system of getting their permits.

I'll donate a safe place to shoot, but I can't guarantee a spot for the class outside of Brainerd unless it's during the week and my in-laws aren't there.

I've had a dream of bussing inner city high risk kids up to the woods and doing gun safety/proficiency training as a day trip program ever since I signed the purchase agreement on the woods. Ironically, I lack the funds to make it happen.

[Slayer_MN1]

Anytime you set a fee for something that excludes a class of people it is discrimination. I know many who live check to check with zero leftover for something like this

jgalt, I was referencing this comment. Does it state anything regarding our states government? I took it as it was written.

[adam21584]

if you cannot afford the carry class how are you going to afford something to carry?

[jgalt]

Anytime you set a fee for something that excludes a class of people it is discrimination. I know many who live check to check with zero leftover for something like this

jgalt, I was referencing this comment. Does it state anything regarding our states government? I took it as it was written.

And I was referencing the part of your reply where you seemingly compared a private retail store with no ability to compel you to buy anything, with a state government forcing you to pay for the "privilege" of being able to effectively defend yourself against aggressors. You know, the part that was irrelevant to MaryB's comment as quoted above...

[Pat Cannon]

if you cannot afford the carry class how are you going to afford something to carry?

Somebody might have enough for one but not both. My first handgun was a cheap one, because that way I could buy practice ammo too.

[2in2out]

if you cannot afford the carry class how are you going to afford something to carry?

That part is covered.

I think it's fair for counties or the state to charge a fee for the permit. There's a maximum amount for the fee, so that counties can't go crazy and price it out of everyone's reach. I also think it's fair for people to charge a reasonable amount for teaching a class. I don't know what my employer currently uses when decided how much to charge a customer for my time, but it's probably about the same per hour what most instructors charge per class. In other words, the hourly rate isn't unfair, in my estimation.

With all of that said, however, I can certainly understand why the total cost would be out of reach for some people, and this is an individual right that we all are entitled to. Therefore, I think what happened here is what should happen, and that is, we take care of each other and do the right thing.

[thunderoussilence]

Will donate some ammo for the class. LMK

Declan

[MaryB]

I have pistols and ammo, upcoming back surgery and some need to modify parts of my house before it have put a huge hit on my SSDI. Plus the need to stockpile easy to make meals for 6 weeks. And save cash to drive back and forth to PT. I could probably use the gun range I belong too for a class but I need to check in with my gun guy and see who does his teaching and if he has a class coming up. He holds them a few times a year.

[642rUS]

Talk to your Sheriff.

The LAW say this about fees: The sheriff may charge a new application processing fee in an amount NOT TO EXCEED the actual and reasonable, direct cost of processing the application or $100, WHICHEVER IS LESS. Subd. 3(f)

If we knew which county, we could check the 2012 Report to the BCA and see just how much he has in his "slush fund." A fund which LEGALLY "must be used ONLY to pay the direct costs of administering" the permit issuing process. Subd. 21.

[gunsmith]

Talk to your Sheriff.

The LAW say this about fees: The sheriff may charge a new application processing fee in an amount NOT TO EXCEED the actual and reasonable, direct cost of processing the application or $100, WHICHEVER IS LESS. Subd. 3(f)

If we knew which county, we could check the 2012 Report to the BCA and see just how much he has in his "slush fund." A fund which LEGALLY "must be used ONLY to pay the direct costs of administering" the permit issuing process. Subd. 21.

Oh, Yes....you're cooking with gas now....get his response in writing....

[Inspiribomb]

Anytime you set a fee for something that excludes a class of people it is discrimination. I know many who live check to check with zero leftover for something like this

These fees aren't excluding any class of people. I don't disagree that it can be a hassle to go through the process to take your class and apply for your permit, but the whole "disenfranchised" thing is getting pretty old all around. If you want your permit, buck up and take the steps to get it. Having said that, I know that there are plenty of people here who would be and are willing to help out someone who wants to get their permit and may have difficulty doing so.

[Erud]

Anytime you set a fee for something that excludes a class of people it is discrimination. I know many who live check to check with zero leftover for something like this

I'm afraid you've lost me here. How is charging all people the same amount of money to receive the same product or service discrimination? It seems to me that if you are charged less for something that I have to pay more for, it would be discrimination against me.

[andrewP]

Anytime you set a fee for something that excludes a class of people it is discrimination. I know many who live check to check with zero leftover for something like this

I'm afraid you've lost me here. How is charging all people the same amount of money to receive the same product or service discrimination? It seems to me that if you are charged less for something that I have to pay more for, it would be discrimination against me.

The "I can't afford anything" content of her posts in this thread does ring a bit hollow, especially when you take into account the fact that she recently started a thread about the new rifle + reloading setup she wants to get for a hunt in Alaska:

http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=46248&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

And also has a several hundred dollar item up for sale in the classifieds:

http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=47021&p=491561#p491561

The sale of that .22 AK replica, if she gets what she's asking (or close to it) would cover the cost of a class, the ammo for the class, and the permit application, probably with a bit left over.

[dupa]

anytime the government wants money it's never easy to hand it over and it should always be questioned.