Safety first

[LePetomane]

I hope these idiots aren't around here. Locally I have shot at Bill's and Oakdale and have found everyone to be very polite and safety conscious.

[mmcnx2]

I hope these idiots aren't around here. Locally I have shot at Bill's and Oakdale and have found everyone to be very polite and safety conscious.

It is very very rare, but you'd be surprised, it does happen. Of course the majority aren't on video so you never hear about them.

[benny]

In watching this video a second time , at about the 28 second mark is when the brass rat / target clearing person comes into full view of the timer guy. Even the shooter can see him if he was not so focused on his run. It was other people in the back ground and the guy down range who were the first to yell out. Then the shooter asks what is going on, and then the score guy said stop!

At about the 25 second mark you can see dust fly off the berm down range that would have been very close to the guy down range.

Very lucky there wasn't a fatality there!!

On a side note it does look like he has a brass roller in hand.

Benny

[crbutler]

This is why range safety is everyone's responsibility, not just the range officer.

There have been times locally where someone has been down range at "make ready" here, but the chorus of "hold it" happens immediately.

Lots of errors in this video.

[Pat Cannon]

I'm pleased to say that at the IDPA matches I've gone to, I recall the ROs (SOs, whatever) have been pretty diligent about going downrange and chasing everybody uprange as the scoring & pasting happens. The closest I've experienced to this was having somebody test the timer while I was downrange resetting steel. I did a couple extra heartbeats when I heard the beep.

[Keith]

I know of one death at a pistol match. Don't want to go into the details but it was quite a while ago (20 years or more ?) and a bullet left the bay and came down elsewhere on the range killing a non-competitor. I happen to know one of the people that was shooting on that squad from where the bullet came from and he said the insurance company of everybody present on that bay ended up paying into the settlement. A few other people on this board may know of the incident too and if they want to discuss it further on a public forum I will leave it up to them.

Personally, I've never seen rounds go downrange, like the video, but have seen several premature "load and make ready" commands. All of which were squashed real quick, and loudly, by everybody else present as noted by cbutler.

[Ironbear]

Mr. Downrange showed up on the camera a good four seconds before anyone (including Mr. Downrange) realized what was going on. The shooter, and presumably the attention of the RSO and the cameraman, transitioned across the potential target without realizing he was there. Scary example of tunnel-vision right there!

Hopefully Mr. Downrange learned a lesson in Situational Awareness too. Few things make a lesson really stick, like a trip from Condition White, straight into Condition Brown....

[Pat Cannon]

Condition Brown....

Ha!

[cobb]

SO/RO is at fault, his job is to control the range and he screwed up, period. Also I think for safety reasons the SO/RO is too far from the shooter when he is shooting the course in this video.

[farmerj]

SO/RO is at fault, his job is to control the range and he screwed up, period. Also I think for safety reasons the SO/RO is too far from the shooter when he is shooting the course in this video.

Technically and according to the rules, you are probably correct.


But the shooter still should not become complacent about relying solely on the ro. It violates one of the 4 basic safety rules. KNOW your target. RO may be responsible party, but it's still about the guy with the booger hook on the bang switch.

[Glenn_S]

Here's your guy...he has his name on his shirt...and a Facebook page...

Funny...no mention of this incident on there...

https://www.facebook.com/bob.bales.12

[mmcnx2]

Here's your guy...he has his name on his shirt...and a Facebook page...

Funny...no mention of this incident on there...

https://www.facebook.com/bob.bales.12

Funny, but what did you expect him to post --- 'Tough day today, damn near got a guy shot because I was stupid!'

[Glenn_S]

Well, yeah...maybe...LOL

Frankly, as viral as this video has gone, I'm surprised he still has his page up.