FJ540 wrote:Where was his wallet? Gun was in right front pocket.
in his right, back pocket.
FJ540 wrote:Where was his wallet? Gun was in right front pocket.
INOR wrote:Sad case. I'm normally one to defend officers, but I just can't defend this guy's panic attack, as that's all that this really was. There was just no need for the officer to lose his **** and unload into the guy. Yes, Castile did a lot of things wrong, but still doesn't justify an officer racial profiling him and then crapping his pants over a situation that wasn't escalating. Movement isn't escalation folks. Seeing a gun is escalation, but even seeing a gun isn't enough escalation to unload into someone. Seeing a gun panning in yours or someone else's direction is, but there is no indication that ever happened here. The gun was in his pocket, remained in his pocket the entire time, and the officer's perception that he was "going for his gun" is not sufficient justification to unload into the guy, in my opinion. But I wasn't on the jury, so my opinion doesn't matter.
Ghost wrote:Link to info on his racial profiling?
FJ540 wrote:Ghost wrote:Link to info on his racial profiling?
Suspect is black male, 20-30s, wide nose, dreads, likely stoned out of his mind (lots of robberies are done while under the influence)... Yep must be looking for one of these guys:
Ok, I have no idea if the BOLO mentioned drugs or not, but the rest is at least close.
Ghost wrote:So the BOLO is racist, not the cop.
goett047 wrote:Maybe we should make it illegal to use lethal force until after the bad guy racks the slide and clicks off the safety on his Glock like in the movies?
BigBlue wrote:Ghost wrote:So the BOLO is racist, not the cop.
No, the BOLO was factual, not racist. Just not filled with extreme detail. Referencing physical/visible attributes, including race, is not racist. Geez, this world is so ridiculous with these 'racist' ramblings these days.
INOR wrote:
Yes, Castile should have frozen and waited for further instruction. Yes, he shouldn't have been under influence of marijuana. Yes he screwed that part up. But he died unnecessarily at the hands of a cop who suffered a full blown panic attack.
It's bothersome that so many are so quick to defend a cop no matter what the circumstances. The cop screwed the pooch on this one. And killed a permit holder who was polite and doing his best to comply. It didn't need to escalate to that.
yukonjasper wrote:INOR wrote:
Yes, Castile should have frozen and waited for further instruction. Yes, he shouldn't have been under influence of marijuana. Yes he screwed that part up. But he died unnecessarily at the hands of a cop who suffered a full blown panic attack.
It's bothersome that so many are so quick to defend a cop no matter what the circumstances. The cop screwed the pooch on this one. And killed a permit holder who was polite and doing his best to comply. It didn't need to escalate to that.
What is bothersome is that the race card is being played so much the paper is wearing thin. All of the issues you seem to want to excuse are part of the reason he was shot. You acknowledged that he DIDN'T freeze and wait for further instruction, he DIDN'T refrain from smoking weed and driving and carrying a pistol, he DIDN'T do what you are supposed to do to not get shot.
So as much as you want to blame it on the Cop, please be intellectually honest enough to realize there is plenty of blame to go around here. There are any number of posts here that outline the consensus for how any of us, regardless of color or carry status, should handle a traffic stop. Very little was exercised by the driver.
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