Sounds to me like a crank-fire... At least on this gun.
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Lumpy wrote:The problem is mass death: anything that every couple of years kills 20-50 or more people at a time makes people more afraid than things that in ones and twos add up to tens of thousands a year. Compare one airliner crash to the yearly toll on our highways for example. That's the whole impetus behind "assault weapon" bans despite handguns being the overwhelming instruments in gun violence. People disproportionately regard these highly visible incidents as intolerable.
You can argue against "Common Sense" gun control that is mostly security theater and would have little effect on actual results. The problem is that if we really did have an Australia/UK level ban on semi-automatics, it would be harder- not impossible, but harder- for these things to happen (at least until anyone can make an illegal M-249 with their 3D printer). And that's as far as most people are willing to see the issue.
gbono23 wrote:"And to put the cherry on top, you have the victims being a group of country music loving "mostly republican gun nuts" that liberals can easily dehumanize and not get worked up over. Just sayin'"
Well one liberal lawyer tried to dehumanize the situation and has been fired. "CBS fires vice president who said Vegas victims didn't deserve sympathy because country music fans 'often are Republican"
LarryFlew wrote:And what was the Hildebeasts immediate tweet:
“Imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer, which the NRA wants to make easier to get.”
She called on people to stand up to the National Rifle Association and defeat the bill.
”Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again,” the former Democratic presidential nominee wrote.
LarryP wrote:Sadly, I think she's correct about using a silencer
With all the music, commotion etc, Nobody would know where the shots were coming from or even know there were shots. Nobody would be taking cover or running since it would be awhile before people knew what was going on. Shooter would have more time to shoot.
crbutler wrote:I disagree.
From what I've seen, he was doing mag dumps into the exit points, i.e. He needed to get folks bunching up into what we called kill zones in the army. He was in effect doing area fire which isn't surprising given his use of bump fire.
No one shoots a full auto shoulder arm or pistol that accurately at 200 yards. Bump fire more so.
A silencer would have no real tactical impact on what he did. It's a low hanging fruit to the antis.
I do suspect those bump fire stocks will get additional scrutiny.
usnret wrote:Wasn't it more like 400 to 500 yards?
INOR wrote:How long do you think it will be before there is a full sale/possession ban on bumpfire stocks, gatlin cranks, and any other trigger mechanisms that speed up cycling of a semi-auto? That'll be the first piece of legislation that will come through because I think everybody is going to be behind that and it could theoretically slide through with little controversy.
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