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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby Ghost on Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:01 pm

I enjoy following this thread even though it’s beyond anything I would try.
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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby hubel585 on Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:26 pm

Here is picture of the bolt from the experimental action,

with our 416 HSM case in it. Note the amount of the

base size of locking lugs, the amount of area on the bolt..


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Here is link to guy doing special 585 HE in the EU,

Good pictures............www.585he.cz

We tested intermediate action with a 700HE barrel we had here.

Just temporary to test strength. 1000 gr over 3100..

Action worked fine.. Ed.
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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby hubel585 on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:40 pm

Here is video of early water barrel test of the

12ga From Hell, from years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c48zTpsgbuk


Here is picture from that video..

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Here is the intermediate size action for 416 HSM with test barrel, .Ed

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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby hubel585 on Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:33 pm

In 416 HSM got a 415 gr long target bullet 3800,

with plain barrel, no brake, on intermediate action,

Now my 416 HE gets same 415gr bullet to 3300.Ed
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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby hubel585 on Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:37 am

Here is picture of our 416HSM cases with screw in shellholders,

for Ammomaster, etc, and slip in shellholders for regular presses

Also have some for big LEE Classic and Smart Reloader presses..

A 378 WEA MAG in picture for comparison...


Second is stacks of 416 HSM, about a third fireformed

and the rest to be fireformed... So far total about 1700, Ed



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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby hubel585 on Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:28 am

Bob Snapp, 90, the great Gun Craftsman, of

Clare, Michigan, passed away Jan 28th....

He was an esteemed member of the

American Custom Gunmakers Guild,

Being its president in 1992..He liked

working with Martini Cadet singleshot rifles

.Worked with guys testing armor long time ago.

Maybe the 1st to do 20mm necked down to 50cal

We lost a great friend,,,Ed
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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby Ghost on Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:40 pm

hubel585 wrote:Bob Snapp, 90, the great Gun Craftsman, of

Clare, Michigan, passed away Jan 28th....

He was an esteemed member of the

American Custom Gunmakers Guild,

Being its president in 1992..He liked

working with Martini Cadet singleshot rifles

.Worked with guys testing armor long time ago.

Maybe the 1st to do 20mm necked down to 50cal

We lost a great friend,,,Ed

Sorry to hear that. Sounds like a very interesting fellow.
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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:39 am

My condolences.

Losing a friend is always tough regardless of the age.
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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby hubel585 on Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:18 pm

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It is possible rig up holders for many types setups.,

About shellholder supply for big cases,

RCBS and others make slip in holders for shotgun cases

that can work or reworked for big rimmed rifle cases...

Here are various sizes.......

16ga-- .810" rim,........ 20ga-- .760" rim,....

24ga-- .725" rim,....... 28ga .680" rim....

Ch4d and Buffalo Arms also have these larger shellholders...


We fireform the 416 HSM with 65 gr of medium speed

surplus powder, with rest of case filled with farina

and grits mix, with a play dough plug in the neck.

It is loud, so we shoot it into big container through a barrel size

size hole, so the sound is muffled, so it doesn't deafen us..


It is great getting more companies making 416 caliber bullets,

long target and bore rider bullets. Ed..



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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby hubel585 on Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:42 am

Wonder if a PTRD with 5 ft long barrel is stable enough

for ELR , rebarrel to 416 and use our 416 HSM, 500 gr bullet ....

.Here is up north guy using 585 HE in a PTRD with inserts,

Light load.....Inserts are in the shape of the 14.5mm case....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyabm-c ... e=youtu.be


HERE ia video, 585 Hubel Express and water jugs - slow motion

750 gr with 155gr RE17, just a moderate load.....Ed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXAo1mJqw8Y
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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby Holland&Holland on Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:57 am

That is very cool.
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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby Ghost on Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:10 am

Holland&Holland wrote:That is very cool.

Agreed
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Re: 585HE-12ga From Hell Guy

Postby hubel585 on Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:11 pm

20mm Vulcan is a big case that works ok, without having

the sides made too thick...They have thinner sides

than smaller cases guys are getting that have the sides

made too thick and won't extract easy or work with high pressures.


Here Barnard P Cheytac bolt that would do for our 416 HSM..Ed......

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