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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby photogpat on Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:05 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:These were specific items discussed by the board and disseminated to the RSOs, both when enacted and later approved. So I don't think it was a person deciding policy. Not saying they got it right each time but it did follow the process.


Not every single time....no.
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:08 pm

photogpat wrote:
Holland&Holland wrote:These were specific items discussed by the board and disseminated to the RSOs, both when enacted and later approved. So I don't think it was a person deciding policy. Not saying they got it right each time but it did follow the process.


Not every single time....no.

I recall rapid fire, green tip, and prone when open to the public in meeting minutes. Now I cannot say for certain if it was both when enacted and when redacted as I do not follow it that close.
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby hard h2o on Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:37 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:
photogpat wrote:
Holland&Holland wrote:These were specific items discussed by the board and disseminated to the RSOs, both when enacted and later approved. So I don't think it was a person deciding policy. Not saying they got it right each time but it did follow the process.


Not every single time....no.

I recall rapid fire, green tip, and prone when open to the public in meeting minutes. Now I cannot say for certain if it was both when enacted and when redacted as I do not follow it that close.


Rapid fire is now allowed as long as the shooter exhibits muzzle control. I believe prone when open to the public on a public range is still not allowed.
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:03 am

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Holland&Holland wrote: I believe prone when open to the public on a public range is still not allowed.

What's the reasoning for not allowing prone?
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby photogpat on Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:31 am

Rip Van Winkle wrote:What's the reasoning for not allowing prone?


Some baloney about how shooters can't be seen on the line.
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:10 am

Correct
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby Ghost on Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:45 am

photogpat wrote:
Rip Van Winkle wrote:What's the reasoning for not allowing prone?


Some baloney about how shooters can't be seen on the line.

So they can be downrange as long as the shooter is on a bench? ;)
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby photogpat on Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:24 am

Who knows. Instead of adapting with the times, OGC is choosing to continue pretending like it's still 1968. Bullseye only targets, limited shortrange opportunities, baloney rules...

if they weren't so close, I wouldn't bother spending the money or time every year. I've given up trying to change the board.
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:55 am

Ghost wrote:
photogpat wrote:
Rip Van Winkle wrote:What's the reasoning for not allowing prone?


Some baloney about how shooters can't be seen on the line.

So they can be downrange as long as the shooter is on a bench? ;)


No, the argument is that on the 100 yard line, when it is busy with the public, the range officers have a difficult time seeing everyone if someone is shooting prone. Not saying I agree with it, just stating the why.

No one is allowed in front of the yellow line when folks are downrange.
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:02 am

photogpat wrote:Who knows. Instead of adapting with the times, OGC is choosing to continue pretending like it's still 1968. Bullseye only targets, limited shortrange opportunities, baloney rules...

if they weren't so close, I wouldn't bother spending the money or time every year. I've given up trying to change the board.


I agree, there is a specific mindset that we need to continue to try to change. At least they have gotten past rapid fire and are now allowing that. My point was I had not heard that the greentip had changed to ok. If so, great.
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby hard h2o on Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:07 am

photogpat wrote:Who knows. Instead of adapting with the times, OGC is choosing to continue pretending like it's still 1968. Bullseye only targets, limited shortrange opportunities, baloney rules...

if they weren't so close, I wouldn't bother spending the money or time every year. I've given up trying to change the board.


What are the limited shortrange opportunites? We have portable target stands on the 25.

Want to use the pistol range then join.

Want to use a different target then join.
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby hard h2o on Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:08 am

I can see as an RSO that it would be difficult to see what people are doing if someone was prone.

You can easily join and shoot prone as much as you would like.
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:09 am

hard h2o wrote:
photogpat wrote:Who knows. Instead of adapting with the times, OGC is choosing to continue pretending like it's still 1968. Bullseye only targets, limited shortrange opportunities, baloney rules...

if they weren't so close, I wouldn't bother spending the money or time every year. I've given up trying to change the board.


What are the limited shortrange opportunites? We have portable target stands on the 25.

Want to use the pistol range then join.

Want to use a different target then join.

I’ll add another. Want the whole range to yourself come in the winter.
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby Erud on Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:09 am

photogpat wrote:Who knows. Instead of adapting with the times, OGC is choosing to continue pretending like it's still 1968. Bullseye only targets, limited shortrange opportunities, baloney rules...

if they weren't so close, I wouldn't bother spending the money or time every year. I've given up trying to change the board.


OGC is all shortrange.
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Re: Some dudes think their stuff is gold

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:10 am

I love the pistol stands on the 25.
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