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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby Heffay on Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:16 am

chudrockz wrote:
Heffay wrote:So you're saying if Ron Paul gets the nomination, he'll beat Obama in the presidential election?


Ron Paul DOES poll the best of all the GOP candidates against Obama. And yes, I would say that the hard part is getting the GOP nomination, since many of the old guard Republicans it seems would rather lose the election than give Ron Paul a shot at it.

IF RP is the Republican nominee, I'd take any bet anyone wants to make that he'll win the general.


Nice caveat. ;-) But yeah, you're on.
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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby Heffay on Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:54 am

http://swampland.time.com/2011/12/09/ro ... cus-upset/

According to this, he's polling 7% under Obama head to head. So if he is polling best of all the republicans... yeah. Sorry, but my money is on Obama. Strictly on a financial level, of course.
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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby DeanC on Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:03 am

Heffay wrote:... but my money is on Obama. Strictly on a financial level, of course.

Obama hasn't even really entered the fray and he is waaaay ahead.

Code: Select all
Candidates (millions of dollars)
All Candidates    176.5
Republicans    90.3
Democrats    86.2
Obama (D)    86.2
Romney (R)    32.2
Perry (R)    17.2
Paul (R)    12.6
Bachmann (R)    8.4
Cain (R)    5.3
Pawlenty (R)    4.7
Huntsman (R)    4.5
Gingrich (R)    2.9
Santorum (R)    1.3
McCotter (R)    0.5
Johnson (R)    0.4
Roemer (R)    0.2
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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby tweener on Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:56 pm

Yes, I would put at least a weeks worth of my annual after tax income on that bet. I have a lot of liberal friends....and in my unscientific poll of them, at least 20% would rather vote for Ron Paul....they are all PISSED at Obama. and allthough they do not agree with Ron 100%, they agree with him on civil libertys, the deficeit, the bail outs, the wars, the spending on nation building, the undo monatary influence on our polotician, the corruption in D.C., etc, etc, etc....they like that he returns money to the treasury every year from his ofice, he doesn't take money from lobyists, he consistantly votes to uphold the constitution, etc, etc, etc. The man is one fo the most Nobel in politics. The ersosion of Obama's support would be great with a Paul Nominee, and once the "anyone but obama" money gets behind Paul, he will catch up quite quickly.

Truth be told, he doesn't need to even raise half of what Obama raises to beat him.....you will see...

Ron Paul-ism is contagious....once you really truely understand what the man is for, and is saying, only socialist or Religous warriors will not be behind him.

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby tweener on Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:01 pm

Heffay wrote:http://swampland.time.com/2011/12/09/ron-pauls-army-eyes-an-iowa-caucus-upset/

According to this, he's polling 7% under Obama head to head. So if he is polling best of all the republicans... yeah. Sorry, but my money is on Obama. Strictly on a financial level, of course.



Yes that poll is true.....somewhat......but it is the AVERAGE of all polls taken over the last ??? 6 months??? 9 months??? It also doesn't include a handfull of polls, that may mean much more than the ones included....The way you take a poll, and what people you include matters.....with Ron Paul being an unconventional candidate, one needs to include unconventional samples in their poll...

take for instance, most Repuplican nomination polls only include likely Republican voters.....ERROR! Ron Paul will have about 10% of his supporters being DEMOCRATS, and also about 25-30% UNLIKELY voters.....people who don't normally vote in primarys and casucuses will be attending to support Ron Paul. Revolution Pac comissioned a poll, that was based on turn out for Ron Paul in 2008, and sampled those people, and he is winning in Iowa. There have been 1 or 2 other polls that took the initiative to acurately sample projected turn out in the caucuses and primarys, by using models based on 2008 turn out for Ron Paul (which will actually underestimate the turn out for him in 2012).....all have concluded that Ron Paul is actually in much better shape than traditional polls show.

Take a look at the individual polls....and see how he started out way behid, and is slowly creeping upward.....and currently polling dead even, slightly behind, or slightly ahead of Obama....Trends matter, and the trend for Ron Paul looks VERY, VERY good....

Examine the trends on Google, with search fields of the candidatees names.....the candidates names plus IOWA, the candidates names plus New Hampshire...

Examine where the money is coming from in Pauls camapaign compared to the others.

I realize he is portrayed as the long shot, and he may be....somewhat....now....steady wins the race, and Ron Paul's growth in popularity is steady and true...Obama is only going to LOOSE support between now and the general.....(unless we nominate Gingrich)

Obama's bandwagon is allready at capacity.....infact it is a little crowded, and a lot of people are uncomfortable being on it, and is search of a better bandwagon. The Obama bandwagon is like going on a hayride with a bunch of people from the old folks home. Ron Pauls bandwagon has sufficient room to accomidate more, and they are having a party on it! There are party favors, doritos, popcorn, hot apple cider. There is freedom and liberty for all over on the Paul bandwagon. People are singing christmas songs, drinking and being marry.... People are cheerful, hopefull, can see a future for America that is much better than today.
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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby tweener on Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:35 pm

P.S.

anyone who wants to see Ron Paul win the MN delegates, or as many as possible, and you aren't currently intimately involved in the MN campaign, CONTACT me, and I will get you the resources you need to be a part of the campaign. Supporters help a little......organized supporters help a TON! I can help you get organized with the right people. We are currently oraganizing at the most basic level, the precinct. Things are looking good, but we need more supporters to have communications with the campaign, so we know who you are, and in what precinct you are in.
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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:25 pm

I'v come to the conclusion that Ron Paul is the best of the Republican field. While I'm not crazy about his foreign policy, he's the only one who seems to take our fiscal situation seriously.

As far as polls go, I'd like to remind everyone that in 1980 the polls had the peanut farmer from Georgia trouncing Reagan.
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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby DeanC on Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:38 am

Newt: It's called a Ponzi Scheme for a reason you douche!

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby tazdevil on Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:46 pm

Interesting article Dean. So I take it we don't like Newt, and I already know how everyone feels about Obama. Time to start up my campaign!


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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby goett047 on Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:48 pm

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby Heffay on Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:36 pm

tazdevil wrote:But really, who does that leave for us to vote for then?


Anyone who votes for an incumbent is part of the problem. Even if it means "the other guys" get in.

The democrat who'll raise your taxes 100% to pay for healthcare for illegal immigrants would do a better job than the republican who currently holds the office. The republican who'll wipe his ass with the Constitution in order to save the children from brown-skinned people will do better than the democrat who currently holds the office. Vote them ALL out. And if you can't stomach pulling the D lever in the election booth, write in me.
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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby chudrockz on Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:38 pm

I could write you in but could NOT vote for a Democrat. I never have, and likely never will.

This even despite the fact that Joan Growe, who is my second cousin and was Minnesota's SOS (IIRC), was a Democrat and I couldn't even bring myself to vote for her. :)
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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby Heffay on Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:39 pm

chudrockz wrote:I could write you in but could NOT vote for a Democrat. I never have, and likely never will.

This even despite the fact that Joan Growe, who is my second cousin and was Minnesota's SOS (IIRC), was a Democrat and I couldn't even bring myself to vote for her. :)


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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby chudrockz on Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:27 pm

In the meantime, Ron Paul (who, according to the prestitutes has "no chance" of getting the nomination) is doing remarkably well:

Latest Iowa poll:

Gingrich 22%
Paul 21%
Romney 16%

Latest NH poll:

Romney 29%
Gingrich 24%
Paul 21%

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth About Newt

Postby sprigfan on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:02 pm

grousemaster wrote:all the issues are important. We all know Obama is an anti.....yet he hasn't touched our gun rights.


Amen to that. I am an independent, and I absolutely hate it when people base their votes on ONE issue. Gun rights are very important to me, but so is the economy, jobs, foreign policy, the environment...

I also hate it when people act like the President is a dictator. Obama isn't passing any gun control laws without going through those people called Legislators. Support for gun ownership is at an all-time high in this country. It's almost political suicide to be anti-gun right now.
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