My first visit to Frontiersman

[Synergy]

When it comes to changing lanes or merging into traffic I want to know why we decided to do this.

Old way, go the speed of traffic, don't wait until the last second and when opportunity arises or you drive to the open spot turn your blinker on and move over. If done correctly nobody has to slow down or change lanes. With the exception of heavy traffic this is not that hard folks.

New way, go any speed you want, blinker is optional, looking in mirror is optional. Move into traffic or change lanes whether there are cars there or not causing them to scatter just so you can move over also causing the flow of traffic to slow down ultimately leading to a traffic jam. If a car doesn't immediately get out of your way then flip that person the bird because you are entitled to whatever lane you want whenever you want, then complain that "people just don't LET YOU IN anymore".

The flashing your lights thing is long been dead and is now looked at like your assaulting the guy in front of you or your a road rager. People think they can do what they want and if they don't like the fact that your following the laws then they instantly put you in the category of road rager.

[XDM45]

When it comes to changing lanes or merging into traffic I want to know why we decided to do this.

Old way, go the speed of traffic, don't wait until the last second and when opportunity arises or you drive to the open spot turn your blinker on and move over. If done correctly nobody has to slow down or change lanes. With the exception of heavy traffic this is not that hard folks.

New way, go any speed you want, blinker is optional, looking in mirror is optional. Move into traffic or change lanes whether there are cars there or not causing them to scatter just so you can move over also causing the flow of traffic to slow down ultimately leading to a traffic jam. If a car doesn't immediately get out of your way then flip that person the bird because you are entitled to whatever lane you want whenever you want, then complain that "people just don't LET YOU IN anymore".

The flashing your lights thing is long been dead and is now looked at like your assaulting the guy in front of you or your a road rager. People think they can do what they want and if they don't like the fact that your following the laws then they instantly put you in the category of road rager.

Exactly.

Most Minnesotans can't merge for you-know-what. I'm not saying people are perfect drivers anywhere else, heck in Boston they either drive 40 or 80mph 5" off your bumper. In Kansas, they don't sand, salt or plow the streets so it's really fun there in the winter, in Texas when it's snowed 1/2" they shut the state down, all of it makes me want to move to a small town somewhere with a ton of land and just get away from people at large.

[xd ED]

Minnesota is an entitlement state. While it's legally not so, driving is viewed as a right, no matter how poorly one has been trained, the condition of your vehicle, or the numerous preoccupations, and distractions in which one chooses to indulge.
The synergy of more, poorly trained drivers, in junk vehicles, with more complex and crowded roadways has all but eliminated pleasure driving, no matter the performance and accoutrements of the vehicle..

[Synergy]

Its like everything else these days, nobody looks at the person as the problem, shortcomings are always now blamed on the device, cars, guns, equipment at work, etc...

[XDM45]

Its like everything else these days, nobody looks at the person as the problem, shortcomings are always now blamed on the device, cars, guns, equipment at work, etc...

Well, not always.

When there's a drunk driver they blame the person, not the car.... but when it's a gun, then the media blames the gun more than the shooter. Such as in the case of Sandy Hook, they mentioned that it was a legally owned gun, but leave off the part that he stole it from his mother who should have kept it secured better and also secured from her son who should have been in some sort of mental health treatment.

[jdege]

I will flash headlights at you for two reasons:
1. Quit driving so slow in the Left Lane, move over to Right Lane.
2. You have NO taillights or brake lights, you are a danger to other drivers.

I will move over, if someone flashes me from behind if:

1. I am in the left-hand lane, and
2. I will not be shortly taking a left-hand exit, and
3. I am driving slower than the car in front of me.

I absolutely will not move over so that the ******* who is tailgating me can move up and tailgate the guy in front of me.

[XDM45]

I will flash headlights at you for two reasons:
1. Quit driving so slow in the Left Lane, move over to Right Lane.
2. You have NO taillights or brake lights, you are a danger to other drivers.

I will move over, if someone flashes me from behind if:

1. I am in the left-hand lane, and
2. I will not be shortly taking a left-hand exit, and
3. I am driving slower than the car in front of me.

I absolutely will not move over so that the ******* who is tailgating me can move up and tailgate the guy in front of me.

Better he rear-end that person than me...so by all means, I'll let them by.

[CarRacer]

I will move over, if someone flashes me from behind if:

1. I am in the left-hand lane, and
2. I will not be shortly taking a left-hand exit, and
3. I am driving slower than the car in front of me.

I absolutely will not move over so that the ******* who is tailgating me can move up and tailgate the guy in front of me.

Sweet, you're probably the reason there's traffic.

It's a PASSING lane, if you're not PASSING get out of the lane.

[OldmanFCSA]

I will move over, if someone flashes me from behind if:

1. I am in the left-hand lane, and
2. I will not be shortly taking a left-hand exit, and
3. I am driving slower than the car in front of me.

I absolutely will not move over so that the ******* who is tailgating me can move up and tailgate the guy in front of me.

Sweet, you're probably the reason there's traffic.

It's a PASSING lane, if you're not PASSING get out of the lane.[/quote]

THANK YOU CarRacer !!!

I hate the drivers that go down the Acceleration lane and STOP at end to look. Then go all the way across to their left slow lane and stay there regardless of traffic conditions, then JUST before their EXIT, dive all the way across to make their ramp.

(The wife wants a semi-auto 12 gage loaded with #00Buck mountede under car pointed at their wheels so she can get them off the road. I could by using an electronic switch and device on trigger, but 5 rounds would never be enough !!! She would never admit to road-rage, just those stupid drivers never look at their tires and know how to drive a flat tire.)

[Synergy]

It is a passing lane and should be used as such but what pisses me off is your in moderate traffic, in the left lane keeping up and the guy behind you is riding your ass so bad you can't even see his grill. What is the point of that?

[45Badger]

It is a passing lane and should be used as such but what pisses me off is your in moderate traffic, in the left lane keeping up and the guy behind you is riding your ass so bad you can't even see his grill. What is the point of that?

The left lane ain't about "keeping up"

[jdege]

I absolutely will not move over so that the ******* who is tailgating me can move up and tailgate the guy in front of me.

Sweet, you're probably the reason there's traffic.

It's a PASSING lane, if you're not PASSING get out of the lane.

Sorry, but no. When traffic is heavy, in an area where there are frequent on and off ramps, you should reserve the right-hand lane for people who are entering and exiting, and through traffic should stay left.

As for moving left, to let someone by, I'll certainly do that, if the lane ahead is clear. But if I'm maintaining distance with the car in front of me, I feel absolutely no obligation to take any effort to let someone by. If traffic in the lane is moving at 37 mph, and I'm moving at 37 mph, and the guy in front of me is moving at 37 mph, and so is the guy in front of him, ad infinitum, the ******* behind me isn't going to move faster than 37 mph, whether I move over for him or not. And it doesn't really make much difference whether he's pissed off at how slow traffic is moving while tailgating me, or if he's pissed off at how slow traffic is moving while tailgating the guy in front of me.

Moving over is a courtesy. Demanding that I move over, in those circumstances, is not courteous.

[OldmanFCSA]

Understand your point.

I'm not talking RushHour driving - most rules are out then, like 40mph minimum by Federal Law for Interstate driving.

But if no on is in front of you for 1/2 mile or more, and it is safe to move over, MOVE OVER.
I do as I ask.


I once (1996) was driving 65mph on a Bayfield County highway in Northern Wisconsin and had a "legal beaver" block my path to point of blocking entire road and slowing to 35mph. After multiple tries to pass him I backed off, got his plate number, (no cellphone back then) and attempted to pass him again. Got along side him, he tried to force me to slow down by accelerating and blocking - I rammed him with truck, others saw this occur. He followed me all the way to Emergency Entrance of Ashland Hospital and assaulted me as I carried my son into the hospital. After delivering my son into proper care, he was almost admitted also. He was an Assistant Douglas County attorney acting as a State Trooper complete with his own gun, which he was illegally carrying. He got in major trouble for his stunt. He stated it was his right to slow anybody down even an ambulance with lights and siren flashing. My 4-ways were on and my horn was being used forcefully.

I don't have time for you "wanna bees" - I respect State Troopers - I hate attorneys!

Get the Hell out of the way, PLEASE.

[adoptedson]

Growing up in IL, I learned to live by the "Slow Traffic Keep Right" signs. I still have trouble with the fact that some Minnesotans will refuse to get out of the left lane as people are forced to go by them in the right lane. I was thrilled when I went to TN a couple summers ago and saw all the signs that say "Keep Right Unless Passing". I was surprised to see how fast they drove there too. It worked too because people actually drove by that rule. It was pretty awesome actually.

XDM45, good luck on your hunt for the XDS. It's a fine piece of hardware. If I run across any I'll let you know.

[jdege]

But if no on is in front of you for 1/2 mile or more, and it is safe to move over, MOVE OVER.

No argument.

I get no thrill out of being the keeper of the speed.