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Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby PhilaBOR on Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:14 pm

MJY65 wrote:It's interesting that the antis are using the profit motive of manufacturers as a reason against legalization. So a company wants to sell a product that people want to buy. So what???

You're not a liberal, are you.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby xd ED on Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:27 pm

Ranb wrote:I watched online while at work in WA. As expected the opposition had little more than hate and lies to support their argument. Too bad we did not have more individuals instead of business/organization representatives speaking. Anyone know if other people showed up but did not speak? Lots of repetition in the pro side. Knox Williams suggested an air rifle can be more powerful than 22lr subsonic. Not a good claim to make unless speaking of the larger caliber air rifles especially by an industry representative.

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There was a strong majority of pro-suppressor people in attendance( my estimation was 90+% of the 100+ people in the room).
The salient points were made; repetition or irrelevance would have accomplished nothing, as witnessed by the antis' performances.

"larger caliber air rifles" are still air rifles and some do rival a 22 in muzzle energy.

I suspect there will be some rebuttals, and additional commentary at the evening session, as there was some discussion amongst the committee about of a lack of qualified medical evidence as to the hearing health benefits.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Kelor on Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:55 pm

http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/htv/ar ... ls_year=89

The rebroadcast is up, though it appears it's only audio after the gavel falls?
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Postby MWAG on Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:38 pm

xd ED wrote:
I suspect there will be some rebuttals, and additional commentary at the evening session, as there was some discussion amongst the committee about of a lack of qualified medical evidence as to the hearing health benefits.


What about those who work in indoor ranges?

I'm sure OSHA has some stats somewhere on the internet
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby MJY65 on Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:08 pm

PhilaBOR wrote:
MJY65 wrote:It's interesting that the antis are using the profit motive of manufacturers as a reason against legalization. So a company wants to sell a product that people want to buy. So what???

You're not a liberal, are you.


Dang! You're on to me! :D
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Kelor on Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:24 pm

Heather: "Silencers were designed to commit murder and get away with it"
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby MJY65 on Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:26 pm

Kelor wrote:Heather: "Silencers were designed to commit murder and get away with it"



Me: "Heather is a hopeless, liberal idiot."
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Kelor on Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:38 pm

Then we have the physician who couldn't figure out how to use the parking meter. To paraphrase: "Even though you are suggesting that lower decibals are better for your ears, we might find out later that scientific fact is wrong." :roll:
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby photogpat on Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:45 pm

The derp was strong on the anti - gun side today....from experts who claim they're not an expert, token gun owner, broad general bashing of the 2nd, and claims that suppressors turn us all into murderers.

Not much was needed on our side as far as testimony goes...they needed technical details mainly, so industry and trade groups can provide those very easily.

All in all extremely entertaining, and a good show by GOCRA and MNGOPAC.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby xd ED on Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:49 pm

Kelor wrote:Then we have the physician who couldn't figure out how to use the parking meter. To paraphrase: "Even though you are suggesting that lower decibals are better for your ears, we might find out later that scientific fact is wrong." :roll:


When questioned, ol doc sawbones admitted he was a surgeon, and not qualified to answer some specific questions that where directed at him.

What the camera didn't bring across was the pissed off disposition of the anti, extolling the virtues of Canadian law, and the US's neanderthal behavior. After speaking this guy stood in the back of the room tight faced, glaring with anger. If there was anyone there that looked like he could blow a gasket and loose it, it was this character. I think the State Patrol/ security noticed him as well.

As to the A/V replays, that won't work on a Mac without buying a plug-in.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Kelor on Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:54 pm

Ahh. Yes. I am a Mac guy. The audio worked and the video worked until the gavel sounded.

Any idea how long the hearings will go this afternoon?
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby xd ED on Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:01 pm

Kelor wrote:Ahh. Yes. I am a Mac guy. The audio worked and the video worked until the gavel sounded.

Any idea how long the hearings will go this afternoon?


It's my understanding the House is in full session until a bit after 5. The committee hearings should reconvene about 6...615.
I'm going back for the PM session.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Kelor on Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:42 pm

I wish I could be there, but grandparenting calls.

I don't see it listed as a live feed anywhere. Does anyone know if it will be streamed?
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Lumpy on Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:53 pm

MJY65 wrote:It's interesting that the antis are using the profit motive of manufacturers as a reason against legalization. So a company wants to sell a product that people want to buy. So what???
Back when the Temperance movement was promoting prohibition, they claimed that the saloons and distilleries were behind all opposition to banning alcohol. :roll:
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Kelor on Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:03 pm

I was just told they went back into session at 4:30 instead of 6:00. I bet most missed it.
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