simple shotgun question

[Nougat]

do I need to empty out the magazine of a pump shotgun to take it out target shooting if its stored in a zippered ''case'' and under the flap that constitutes the ''trunk'' of a subaru impreza station wagon?

pretty sure I do. don't even know if I would risk it if someone said I didn't have to but it really is a pain.

[smurfman]

Short answer- yes. The law considers a firearm to be loaded if a round is in the chamber or the magazine if the magazine is not removable if traveling by a vehicle. The exception would be if you are walking to the range and have a carry permit. Then it is a matter of how much hassle you will get from the neighbors and police.

[Nougat]

The exception would be if you are walking to the range and have a carry permit.

did you mean or?

also, Thanks I thought so. If someone would have suggested otherwise I would have needed really hard proof to ''go for it''.

[Thunder71]

Well, there are exceptions but in general it's best to have them unloaded and cased.

From the DNR website:

Take time to read and understand the hunting regulations. Many regulations change from year to year. Don’t be caught off guard by not checking for changes. The recent change in the firearms transportation law is a good example: The new law allows for transporting unloaded/uncased firearms in certain circumstances but is still requires firearms to be cased in others. Pack a spare gun case: This advice is aimed for those who walk long distances in one direction and then catch a ride back to the starting point or hunting cabin in someone else's vehicle. Either make sure the awaiting vehicle has everyone's gun case in it, or simply buy a cheap case - the kind that fits in a pocket - so that you can transport your firearm legally. Transporting loaded or uncased firearms is a common violation and is extremely dangerous. The best advice is to always unload and always case., there will be no doubt as to if the firearm is being legally transported

Full text in the 2014 regulations, page 22: http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/rlp/regula ... =bookmarks

[LarryFlew]

What kind of pump is a pain to unload? Most are a press on the inside of the shell area and the next round comes out.

[Nougat]

What kind of pump is a pain to unload? Most are a press on the inside of the shell area and the next round comes out.

it is a remington 870 and I have to push up on the thing that goes up to put shells in then shuck?/rack? the pump with my finger still up there in the way if I don't want them to end up chambering. I guess I could just hold the button (whats this called?) that lets you slide the pump before you pull the trigger(the non ''sissy'' way of emptying)? I've only tried about three times and ended up doing it the chambering way 80% of each of those times.

heres another question. I dry fire it because I don't want to have it sit chambered but do not want to deal with that button to unlock the slide if I did have to get it ready fast, so how bad is it for the firing pin(is there one?) or anything else in there?

sorry to be so noob (unknowledgeable) hope I'm not completely laughable

[westhope]

On an 870, if hold "the thing that goes up" you will see a lever that captures the next shell from come out of the magazine on the side (inside) of the receiver. You can push that lever to the side and it will release the next captured shell so you can remove it from loading port. You can work out one shell at a time until empty without running the shells through the chamber. Then you can cycle the action to remove the last shell from the chamber.

Dry firing the 870 will not hurt it.

[benny]

If your transporting any firearm in Minnesota in or on any car, truck or 4 wheeler it must be unloaded. Doesn't always have to be in a case depending on where your at. The only two exceptions are a handgun with a permit to carry, the PTC does not cover shotguns or rifles and a shotgun in a duck boat to shoot a cripple BUT the motor must be off and the boat must not be still moving from thrust of the motor.



Benny

[dupa]

if your going to a public/club to shoot.. I would unload and always have the pump/slide to the rear so they can see it's open unloaded and unable to fire.

[farmerj]

I've gone so far on a range to even pull a bore snake to both ends as well to show it's safe and empty.

Push up on the shell lifter and the shell retainers are on the side you push in to release the next round in the magazine.

[LarryFlew]

You tube unload pump shotgun will show you the 870 is really easy and exactly as described.

[LumberZach]

Also, holding the slide release and cycling the action 10 times hurts nothing. Point in a safe direction and you no longer have an issue.

[grimbeaver]

Regardless of the transport rules most ranges will not look favorably upon it. No matter what it is in, it is still a loaded weapon and unless you carry your case upright all the time it will be pointed at several people while you carry it. I would recommend just unloading it.

[Nougat]

Regardless of the transport rules most ranges will not look favorably upon it. No matter what it is in, it is still a loaded weapon and unless you carry your case upright all the time it will be pointed at several people while you carry it. I would recommend just unloading it.

Thanks I thought so. If someone would have suggested otherwise I would have needed really hard proof to ''go for it'

I get not allowing chambered for transport for non confirmed well versed folks and that ''loaded''(within magazine attached to gun) is just too ready to go, also that noone wants guns (feel safer when theres a rule-numnuts don't follow them though, sort of like gun control?)___back to my other blathering___pointed at them. But is there really any actual chance that the rounds in the mag of a pump action are going to go off by themselves or somehow get into the chamber(bumpy roads jigglin the forend ?)?

[LarryFlew]

But is there really any actual chance that the rounds in the mag of a pump action are going to go off by themselves or somehow get into the chamber(bumpy roads jigglin the forend ?)?

Not sure what the question is about as it doesn't relate to the discussions so far.