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West Texas Shooting

Postby Grayskies on Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:27 pm

At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — At least five people were dead in West Texas after a man who was stopped by state troopers when his vehicle failed to signal a left turn opened fire and fled, shooting more than 20 people before he was killed by officers outside a movie theater, authorities said Saturday. Three law enforcement officers were among the injured.

The shooting began with an interstate traffic stop in the heart of Texas oil country where gunfire was exchanged with police, setting off a chaotic afternoon during which the suspect hijacked a U.S. Postal Service vehicle and began firing at random in the area of Odessa and Midland, hitting multiple people. Cell phone video showed people running out of a movie theater, and as Odessa television station KOSA aired breaking developments on live TV, their broadcast was interrupted by police telling them they had to clear the area.

https://apnews.com/8d8ea557211f4b8db01598bdfa743dd9

I have to wonder what the police stumbled into.
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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby Holland&Holland on Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:38 am

Bad people are bad people. This is why we carry.
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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby Ghost on Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:42 am

Holland&Holland wrote:Bad people are bad people. This is why we carry.

Yep, police were quick to act on this one
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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby Grayskies on Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:11 pm

The Latest: FBI: Gunman troubled before job woes, shooting
Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke said Monday that 36-year-old Seth Aaron Ator had been fired over the weekend from Journey Oilfield Services. He said both Ator and the company called 911 after being fired Saturday but that Ator was gone by the time police showed up. FBI special agent Christopher Combs says Ator’s statements on the FBI tip line were “rambling.”

https://apnews.com/eef251ac02a74cb7ba195f83a9494c45

A better headline might be "Gunman called FBI and 911 just before rampage".
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Postby Rip Van Winkle on Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:11 am

Grayskies wrote:The Latest: FBI: Gunman troubled before job woes, shooting
Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke said Monday that 36-year-old Seth Aaron Ator had been fired over the weekend from Journey Oilfield Services. He said both Ator and the company called 911 after being fired Saturday but that Ator was gone by the time police showed up. FBI special agent Christopher Combs says Ator’s statements on the FBI tip line were “rambling.”

https://apnews.com/eef251ac02a74cb7ba195f83a9494c45

A better headline might be "Gunman called FBI and 911 just before rampage".

I wonder if the cops were alerted to this assclown, and were looking for an excuse to pull him over?
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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby Grayskies on Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:44 am

On the Michigan Talk Network about the reaction of Democrats to the Midland, Texas shooting

https://youtu.be/A7KnzCgKDJA

Biden wants to ban any gun with magazines that hold more than one round.
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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby Holland&Holland on Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:54 pm

Grayskies wrote:On the Michigan Talk Network about the reaction of Democrats to the Midland, Texas shooting

https://youtu.be/A7KnzCgKDJA

Biden wants to ban any gun with magazines that hold more than one round.


I thought he was all for double barrel shotguns?
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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby Grayskies on Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:43 pm

Texas gunman who killed seven had previously failed background check for firearm
(Reuters) - The gunman who killed seven people and wounded 23 others in a rolling rampage across West Texas obtained an assault-style rifle despite failing a background check, state and law enforcement officials said on Monday.

The gunman, identified by police as Seth Aaron Ator, 36, carried out the shooting spree in the neighboring cities of Midland and Odessa on Saturday, a short time after he was fired from his trucking job. He called local emergency 911 responders and then an FBI tip line to make rambling statements, officials said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texa ... SKCN1VN0L3
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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby BigBlue on Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:52 pm

Lott may be a good author and know a lot about gun stats/issues but he sure doesn't impress in interviews...
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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby Grayskies on Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:08 pm

BigBlue wrote:Lott may be a good author and know a lot about gun stats/issues but he sure doesn't impress in interviews...

True, and the sound is usually pretty awful too.
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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby Grayskies on Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:14 pm

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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby Grayskies on Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:56 pm

Texas Shooter Had Been Banned From Buying Firearms Because Mentally Unfit
A man who went on a deadly mass shooting spree across West Texas on Saturday was barred under federal law from owning or buying firearms because a court had previously determined he was mentally unfit, according to law-enforcement officials.

Authorities on Tuesday were looking into whether the gunman, 36-year-old Seth Aaron Ator, bought the AR-15 style rifle used in the attack through a private sale, thus avoiding a background check, the officials said.

The gunman had tried to buy a gun in January 2014 but failed because a nationwide criminal background check system flagged the mental health determination by a local court and prevented the purchase, according to the officials.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/texas-shoo ... 1567540321

So laws would have stopped him from obtaining a firearm illegally?
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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:07 pm

Grayskies wrote:Texas Shooter Had Been Banned From Buying Firearms Because Mentally Unfit
A man who went on a deadly mass shooting spree across West Texas on Saturday was barred under federal law from owning or buying firearms because a court had previously determined he was mentally unfit, according to law-enforcement officials.

Authorities on Tuesday were looking into whether the gunman, 36-year-old Seth Aaron Ator, bought the AR-15 style rifle used in the attack through a private sale, thus avoiding a background check, the officials said.

The gunman had tried to buy a gun in January 2014 but failed because a nationwide criminal background check system flagged the mental health determination by a local court and prevented the purchase, according to the officials.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/texas-shoo ... 1567540321

So laws would have stopped him from obtaining a firearm illegally?


No but it would have made his illegal acts due to his illegal behavior illegal.
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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby Grayskies on Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:22 pm

Authorities Suspect Man of Making and Selling Gun Used in Texas Shooting
Authorities suspect the Lubbock man sold Ator the gun through a private sale. Such a sale allowed Ator to purchase a gun without going through a criminal-background check. Gun-control proponents have frequently complained that private sales are a hole in the background-check system that should be addressed.

It is unclear whether the man knew Ator was a prohibited person when selling him the rifle. If the gun dealer did in fact know that Ator was barred from buying guns, he could be charged with a federal crime. But authorities are also looking into whether the man was illegally selling guns.

While private gun sales are legal under federal law, it is a crime to be in the business of manufacturing or selling guns without a license. Law-enforcement officials suspect the man was buying various gun parts to build his own guns and then reselling them.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/authoritie ... 1567639127

Optics are looking even worse for the left.
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Re: West Texas Shooting

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:55 pm

Grayskies wrote:Authorities Suspect Man of Making and Selling Gun Used in Texas Shooting
Authorities suspect the Lubbock man sold Ator the gun through a private sale. Such a sale allowed Ator to purchase a gun without going through a criminal-background check. Gun-control proponents have frequently complained that private sales are a hole in the background-check system that should be addressed.

It is unclear whether the man knew Ator was a prohibited person when selling him the rifle. If the gun dealer did in fact know that Ator was barred from buying guns, he could be charged with a federal crime. But authorities are also looking into whether the man was illegally selling guns.

While private gun sales are legal under federal law, it is a crime to be in the business of manufacturing or selling guns without a license. Law-enforcement officials suspect the man was buying various gun parts to build his own guns and then reselling them.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/authoritie ... 1567639127

Optics are looking even worse for the left.


Not so sure

I don’t like how this could be spun against us
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