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Postby Rogelk on Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:06 pm

My oldest son's a LEO and sent me this...but, it was made available to the general public.

http://m.qctimes.com/vmix_7a4d5038-82fc ... 03286.html

...here's a description of what occured.

http://www.qctimes.com/news/local/artic ... 03286.html
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Postby Pat on Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:16 pm

My prayers are with the officer and his family.
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Postby macphisto on Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:55 pm

Attacking an officer is serious ****. I'm glad he won't do it again.
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Postby mrokern on Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:27 am

A few thoughts...

First off, my prayers to the officer. This was an absolutely justified shooting, but he is still likely going to go through physical and emotional hell.

Let the video serve as a lesson and backup to what many of us teach. Someone who is fatally wounded, including being shot, will not just go down. This criminal had enough fight in him after the first (fatal) shot to force the officer to fire again, and he STILL had enough strength after the second shot to move away before collapsing. Even still, he continued breathing for at least another 20-30 seconds before dying.

It's hard to watch someone die, but this guy had it coming.

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Postby Pinnacle on Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:04 am

Some thoughts here

Firstly - the Officer did his Job 100% and the criminal died as the result of his actions and not as a result of the officers......

Secondly - this raises a serious point here to consider, and I know that this may spark a mile long thread and if it does so be it - BUT please make this a constructive discussion.

If you saw something like this - an officer getting served by the side of the road, obviously outmatched, would you stop and assist? - there is NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER - but it is some serious **** to consider...

Thoughts?
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Postby mrokern on Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:18 am

Pinnacle wrote:Some thoughts here

Firstly - the Officer did his Job 100% and the criminal died as the result of his actions and not as a result of the officers......

Secondly - this raises a serious point here to consider, and I know that this may spark a mile long thread and if it does so be it - BUT please make this a constructive discussion.

If you saw something like this - an officer getting served by the side of the road, obviously outmatched, would you stop and assist? - there is NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER - but it is some serious **** to consider...

Thoughts?


Yes, I would. Absolutely. But I won't criticize someone who says they would NOT stop, as I can understand that. It's a personal decision.

If I didn't get involved, and that officer was killed...I don't know if I'd be able to live with that hanging over me. I wouldn't be able to look my family in the eye, or myself for that matter. Most cops are good, service-oriented people doing a very difficult job, and want nothing more than to go home to their families at the end of the shift.

I know and understand the risks, but I have to do what I believe is right for me.

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Postby Pat on Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:19 am

That is the first thing that came to mind. I would not hesitate to help, come what may of my actions. The only caveat here would be if I was alone or with my kids.
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Postby ttousi on Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:01 pm

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Postby macphisto on Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:39 pm

Definitely, probably. I couldn't say for certain until I was in that situation. I hope I'm never in that situation.
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Postby tacticalninja32 on Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:11 pm

Without a doubt I would help, how I would not know til I was there, obviously this "beast" was uncooperative and full of ragged, at this point nothing less than a bullet can keep him from harming others,
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Postby Stradawhovious on Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:23 pm

Man, what a dilemma. What is the LEO to think when he's in a dangerous situation to begin with, and someone comes running up and draws a weapon?

+1 on Mac's post. I hope I'm never in that situation, I have no idea what I'd do.
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Postby macphisto on Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:27 pm

Stradawhovious wrote:Man, what a dilemma. What is the LEO to think when he's in a dangerous situation to begin with, and someone comes running up and draws a weapon?

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa! Whoa. Who said anything about weapons?
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Postby justaguy on Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:33 pm

macphisto wrote:
Stradawhovious wrote:Man, what a dilemma. What is the LEO to think when he's in a dangerous situation to begin with, and someone comes running up and draws a weapon?

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa! Whoa. Who said anything about weapons?

That's what I was thinking.

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Postby hammAR on Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:35 pm

Stradawhovious wrote:What is the LEO to think when he's in a dangerous situation to begin with, and someone comes running up and draws a weapon?.......


The LEO is not thinking about much other than survival, he would not even be aware of you or your gun .....
as you can see in the video he was not even aware or listening to the other cop directly after the shooting portion of the incident...........
in a "real world" situation such as this one is not in a global awareness mindset nor thinking logically.....regardless of what all the "what if's" decide.....

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Postby Stradawhovious on Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:37 pm

macphisto wrote:Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa! Whoa. Who said anything about weapons?


I thought it was implied by the context of the word "assist" based on the situation being discussed which an officer neecded assistance, resulting in the use of deadly force against a criminal, which just happend to be in the form of a gunshot wound.

Silly me. Didn't mean to keep the thread on topic with the OP. Sorry. :?
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