Permit to purchase waiting time.

[RobD]

Well, the PTP is free anyway, so the penalty is pretty much moot to the PD, but I found this part interesting...

Subd. 9.Permit to carry. A valid permit to carry issued pursuant to section 624.714 constitutes a transferee permit for the purposes of this section and section 624.7132.

and

Subd. 5.Granting of permits. The chief of police or sheriff shall issue a transferee permit or deny the application within seven days of application for the permit. The chief of police or sheriff shall provide an applicant with written notification of a denial and the specific reason for the denial. The permits and their renewal shall be granted free of charge.

I wish I would have known this when Dakota took 41 days for my permit last year. I would have gotten my $100 back.

[MisterOblivious]

This is my problem with the time frame set by the statutes, there are no consequences for failure to uphold the statute.

But you are right... A polite face to face with a CO couldn't hurt, I just wouldn't expect it to do much good.

This is my problem with the time frame set by the statutes, there are no consequences for failure to uphold the statute.

None at all. Nor are there any for the state agencies that supply the documentation that can be requested if the officer is being dilligent. I hear the department of human services can be mighty slow in responding to requests; something to do with massive budget cuts to avoid tax increases.
On the other hand, I've lost count of the number of times I've heard "he's on vacation!" as an excuse for the delay in issuing permits.


Day 28'ish in Bursville:

Say, it's been nearly a month since I applied for the permit and the law says I should have had it in my hand 7 days later. What gives?

Sir, it's 7 business days and the officer was on vacation and there was a holiday. You'll just have to wait. [anybody know what holiday falls between November 29th-december 19th?]

No, it's 7 days from receipt regardless of what day you received it or who is on vacation. May I speak to the officer in charge of that sort of thing?

I can patch a call through for you but you'll just be wasting everybody's time. We don't like to take calls checking on the status until at least 30 days is up. If everybody did that he'd never get anything done!


Fine just put me through to him.
...phone rings, no answer...transferred to voicemail...

Hi xxx, this is xxx xxx calling about the permit to purchase a handgun application I turned in about a month ago. I was hoping to have it around 20 days ago but if there's been a problem feel free to call me at xxx-xxx-xxx. Thanks

Permit was in my mailbox the next afternoon.

[DeanC]

The police are on your side, butch up Sally and wait it out. You have no idea how stressful their jobs are.

[nyffman]

It's seven calendar days. You drop it off at 4pm on a Wednesday, they need to have it in your hands by 4pm the following Tuesday.

State statute 624.7131 subdivision 5 ensures the permitee will be provided with a permit or notified of a denial of permit within a 7 day period. When the permit is ready, the applicant will be notified by telephone.

Bring in a copy of the law subdivision 5 highlighted and tell them to follow the ******* law, after all, they're cops.

That should go over well....

Actually, it worked for me. I gave them some grace period outside the 7 days, then went in and asked them if they were aware that they were in violation of the law. They called the next day to tell me I could pick up my permit. In my case, they used the excuse that the PD in a town where I had lived previously hadn't gotten back to them. Too bad, the law says 7 days.

[Seismic Sam]

5-7 days in washington County, even when old Jim "sub recoso" Frank was Sheriff. Probably less now with Willian Hutton, who actually went to the trouble of "recalling" all the old Frank CP cards, because he didn't think County documents should have that phrase on it. I got my replacement card with his signature on it two days after I sent in the form to replace my permit.

[BigBlue]

Everyone has a boss. Start working your way up the chain of command. Supervisor, Captain, Chief, etc.; politely explaining your situation and your frustration to each. If nobody offers an acceptable explanation or resolution keep going. Talk to the city administrator or a city council member, or several. All of that still might not get you a result immediately but if enough city residents in your position follow suit eventually someone will realize there is an issue to be dealt with. Things don't change by people talking about it on web forums... they change by direct action.

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