Revolvers v. autos for pocket carry

[macphisto]

Semi autos for offense (military).
Revolvers for defense (civilian carry).

Uhhhhhhhhh, that's a pretty effen bold assertion.

Nah, just means that I must be in the military right now.

Hey, me too!

[JoeH]

Semi autos for offense (military).
Revolvers for defense (civilian carry).

Uhhhhhhhhh, that's a pretty effen bold assertion.

Nah, just means that I must be in the military right now.

When did the military switch to .380?

[ironfoot]

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/Puckett/firstgun.pdf

[EJSG19]

Uhhhhhhhhh, that's a pretty effen bold assertion.

Nah, just means that I must be in the military right now.

When did the military switch to .380?

I am not sure. They are going to pissed when they find out I still carry my .45 though.

maybe the .380's are for practicing on pop cans?

[Stradawhovious]

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/Puckett/firstgun.pdf

Decent article. Condescending, preachy, opinionated and bull headed, but contains some good information.

[ironfoot]

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/sho ... p?t=102806


http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/2006/11 ... elgun.html


http://www.notpurfect.com/main/revolver.html

[1911fan]

Frankly, those articles are nothing at all, as far as reason to choose one over the other. BUT if one looks at the world from lowest form of humanoid to the elite military groups, almost everyone can figure out an semi automatic pistol and make it work.

Lets face it, most of what we do with firearms is completely based on what we want to do. Gunny might say the same thing is true in the military as you are very hopeful in wanting to do what makes the Sgt in charge happy, as that makes your life happy. But we choose firearms mostly because we have read, played with, and decided that model X is what makes us happy.

The actual number of us as permit holders who will actually be in a life or death situation where making one choice over the other will change the outcome of the incident are miniscule. For the most part, if we remember rule one of gun fighting, we will win.

Making sure your carry piece works, shoots to where you are aiming and most importantly, is on your hip, in your pocket, or in your hand, when the times comes, is the most important parts of carry, the rest is esoterica of the most part.

The article by mr Puckett has some serious flaws in it. His insistance on a short barreled revolver for carry when little or no training is taking place is completely flawed. Jim Cirillo who was a long time trainer in the NYPD as well as a guy who had something over 10 shootouts as a cop, felt that the improvement in accuracy from the 2 inch to the 3 inch barrel was so great, he got S&W to make 3 inch J frames as a regular catalog item, and got it that it was the assigned off duty gun of the NYPD just on accuracy alone. Also while super lightweight carry guns are nice, for most people, that extra 5 or 6 ounces will make a world of difference in practicing, and that will be far more important than a few ounces saved if carried.

A light weight gun is a deterent to good shooting most of the time, and a lot of people have guns that never leave the house. I am a firm believer in three inch or four inch K frames, and have them stashed around the house. As a house gun, a heavy barrel that speeds up second rounds is waaaaay more important that being that much heavier.

[Rem700]

To each there own
I have tried revo and the small Kahr PM9 but for my jean pockets either front or back they are larger then what I can manage. I generally sit on a P3AT but have noticed the outline has started to wear in the pocket much like a can of chew or a wallet does, I dont know if anyon else would notice it but the wife has mentioned it but she already knows what it is.
As far as the taper it is almost as thin as the barrel or backstrap on a SP101 so I guess it doesnt really taper like a revolver.
When wearing a jacket I might be tempted to drop the SP101 in a pocket butt there is still a P3AT in the jeans.

[plblark]

maybe get a "privacy" shield on the pocket holster for the rear pocket? thin layer of leather, attached at the bottom and nowhere else, keeps a uniform outline or at least blurs the worn in outline.

[hammAR]

............at least blurs the worn in outline.

Change pants more often.......IWB removes that worry.....

[plblark]

It's more of a problem with denim jeans, of which I have 2 pairs. and we're talking over a period of months. It's like the snuff can ring you might see on some people's jeans pockets.

[lumbering.buffalo]

I carry a 642. Mostly in one of two pocket holsters. An Uncle Mikes or a Nemesis(?). The Nemesis works best in dockers while the UM works when I'm carrying in a coat pocket or jeans. However, most of the time time when I wear jeans i carry IWB in a Mika holster.