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Leadless ammo Eh?

Postby Stradawhovious on Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:07 pm

Just bought some .38 special, for no other reason than the advertising.....

Front of box.........
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Back of box..........
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Re: Leadless ammo Eh?

Postby macphisto on Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:33 pm

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Re: Leadless ammo Eh?

Postby monschman on Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:45 pm

me thinks they be talking about the lead styphnate in the primer. As the bullet is fully encased then the round would not create any airborne lead during fire.
Good observation though
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Postby Stradawhovious on Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:46 pm

monschman wrote:me thinks they be talking about the lead styphnate in the primer. As the bullet is fully encased then the round would not create any airborne lead during fire.
Good observation though



Well yeah of course. No lead in the primers, and the bullet is mostly jacketed cutting down on the lead expelled when fired......... I still think it's pretty durned funny though.
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Postby monschman on Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:56 pm

you are right, it is funny, just wait till one of the ntis figure it out though, I can see the headlines now "FAMOUS FIREARMS MANUFACTURERS LIE, MILLIONS AT RISK"
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Postby JFettig on Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:56 pm

Careful, I haven't heard of any lead free primers that don't use stuff in them that will erode your barrel. Its nasty stuff.

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Postby Rem700 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:57 pm

Must be like stainless steel. Not completely just less.
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Postby Norsesmithy on Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:11 am

I notice the package says LeadLess, not Leadless.

The distinction is an important one.
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Postby John T on Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:53 am

Ya the little "trademark" ring was a give away
http://www.remington.com/products/ammun ... idges.aspx
scroll the small window for explanation, it's about "vapor" at an indoor range.

You really want lead less? Try these;
http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/pistol/
http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/r ... sx-bullet/

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Re: Leadless ammo Eh?

Postby Seismic Sam on Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:49 am

The primary cause of lead vapors at a firing range is from the bullet, and not the primer. And yes, with a poorly ventilated range, the buildup of lead vapors can be quite toxic. I remember shooting at the old White Bear range, which had the pistol range in the basement, and the ventilation there (this was probably 30 years ago) was practically nil. After shooting for a while, you would wind up with a sweet taste in your mouth, which was the lead vapor getting into your mouth and lungs.

Both the Ranier and Berry's brands of bullets were created with 100% coverage copper plating to eliminate this problem. FYI - 230 grain 45 ACP "ball" ammo still has an exposed lead base, and can produce lead vapors.

Yes, some Barnes bullets are solid copper, but those are generally for heavy skinned African game, and they are freaking expensive. Not only do you get leadless shooting, but you will also be moneyless rather quickly.
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Re: Leadless ammo Eh?

Postby aviator on Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:48 am

"Yes, some Barnes bullets are solid copper, but those are generally for heavy skinned African game, and they are freaking expensive. Not only do you get leadless shooting, but you will also be moneyless rather quickly."

Actually, I've been using Barnes solid copper in my .243 for a couple of years now on whitetails.
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Re: Leadless ammo Eh?

Postby John T on Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:42 am

aviator wrote:Actually, I've been using Barnes solid copper in my .243 for a couple of years now on whitetails.


Ya,,I've been working up some 120TTSX in my 7-08. Had a series close with a ladder test at 100, then got the bright idea to move out to 200, just as the barrel began to copper foul!! Darn thing sprayed'm all over!
Lesson learned about fouling, now I gotta start over. Not really from scratch, but it'll be at least another box. The signs where there, I just didn't pay attention.
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